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Old 04-23-2011, 06:14 PM   #61
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And yet I wonder how confident you are about the stresses on the frame with more weight and the relocation of weight from the original?

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I've been following your project with much fascination- You've got a lot of guts!
Makes me look at my Trillium with a speculative eye...
I'm with John- I'd like to hear more about what you did to the frame re. extra stresses, etc.-did the extra 44 inches in length require "beefing up" the frame in any way? Or was the original tubing/angle iron/whatever you had the right size-weight to begin with?

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Old 04-23-2011, 06:47 PM   #62
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ken---looking good so far! and i also applaude your moxy!! i cannot honestly say that i'd have the guts to take a saw to my trailer.... keep those photos coming!.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:12 PM   #63
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This is the most amazing build I have ever seen! I have had dreams of stretching a 13' Scamp in to a "17' Boler". But I figured I was nutz! I can't wait to see the final product. You truly do amazing work!
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:02 AM   #64
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John and Francesca

I have had a few questions about the frame and weight. the original trailer weighted 2300 lb The old paperwork from the trailer says the trailer weighted 1850 but I weighted empty. Anyway 2300 is not to bad for a 3500 lb axle ,but now I have two, I am good for 7000 lbs

Trailer should weight in at about 3300 to 3600 [ With 4 6 volt batteries ]

All my tanks are now going to be under the trailer between the axles ,my batteries , fridge,waterheater, oven, the main weight load will be on the axles .I was going to put my fresh water under the bed but I found a better tank that will fit under. Up front is all bed and storage under it. I will have to watch what I put in there so there is no real jump in tongue weight

Will have more pics soon

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Old 04-29-2011, 08:51 AM   #65
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You have the right idea -- locating as many of your big tanks between the axles as you can and the fridge/oven as close to being above the axles as possible. Of course the other important weight is the rule of thumb of 10 to 15% of the trailer weight on the hitch. Good luck to you!

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Old 04-29-2011, 09:07 AM   #66
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John and Francesca

I have had a few questions about the frame and weight. the original trailer weighted 2300 lb The old paperwork from the trailer says the trailer weighted 1850 but I weighted empty. Anyway 2300 is not to bad for a 3500 lb axle ,but now I have two, I am good for 7000 lbs

Trailer should weight in at about 3300 to 3600 [ With 4 6 volt batteries ]
it. I will have to watch what I put in there so there is no real jump in tongue weight

Will have more pics soon

Thanks Ken
Hi, Ken

Thanks for the update!
I can't tell by looking at your early pictures- did you have to reinforce the tongue in anticipation of the greater trailer/tongue weight etc.?


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Old 04-29-2011, 11:40 PM   #67
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Hi Francesca

I asked about the tongue strength when I had the frame modified and the shop that did the work said it was strong enough without any mods.

This is the second trailer they have done for me, the first was good.I had it for years with no problems.

It is 4 x 2 inch tubing frame, Some trailers weighting over 5000 use the same size tubing should be plenty strong.


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Old 04-30-2011, 10:29 AM   #68
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Thanks, Ken

Metal strength is a hot topic around here
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Old 04-30-2011, 05:07 PM   #69
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I don't believe it will fly!
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Old 04-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #70
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Thanks, Ken

Metal strength is a hot topic around here
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Husband- and-accomplice team spent months debating it while planning to build this boat-and-trailer piggyback thingamabob for a little truck..........

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Francesca do you have any pics from the side, looks very interesting. Does the boat trailer just roll up on ramps or is it loaded on

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Old 04-30-2011, 06:59 PM   #71
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Francesca do you have any pics from the side, looks very interesting. Does the boat trailer just roll up on ramps or is it loaded on

Thanks Ken
She rolls up the ramps as meek as a lamb!
Of course, the electric winch helps a little

Francesca

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That's the only picture I have, but I'll get one from the side when I get a chance.

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Old 04-30-2011, 08:22 PM   #72
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Great job and way to go for it! Immaculate work, can't wait to see the finishing!
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:56 PM   #73
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Francesca do you have any pics from the side, looks very interesting. Does the boat trailer just roll up on ramps or is it loaded on

Thanks Ken
"the Accomplice" (who shall remain nameless) sent another picture of the piggyback!
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Talk about wind drag-WOW
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So I'm trying to figure out the reason for this 'thing.' Oh...I get it...it is suppose to be a multipurpose land/amphibious vehicle. A truck or a boat or a boat/truck/submarine. When the whole 'thing' is in the water you have a boat and the truck becomes the submarine! Brilliant!
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[QUOTE=Kevin K;Talk about wind drag-WOW[/QUOTE]

Maybe not...looks like a tow bar on the front of the truck....maybe itza a toad?
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:25 AM   #77
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Francesca

I can see why weight is a important concern for you , I take it you pull your trailer behind . Very cool idea but looks like it could be a little top heavy. Must be a real head turner going down the road with your trailer in tow.

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Old 05-02-2011, 09:35 AM   #78
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Wonder how that affects gas mileage??
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:01 AM   #79
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So I'm trying to figure out the reason for this 'thing.' Oh...I get it...it is suppose to be a multipurpose land/amphibious vehicle. A truck or a boat or a boat/truck/submarine. When the whole 'thing' is in the water you have a boat and the truck becomes the submarine! Brilliant!
You're quite correct. I should say that one has to take care to open the cab windows before launch, as otherwise the air trapped in the cab creates the dreaded "accidental pontoon" effect and the whole thing rolls over.
I pointed that out to the Perpetrators during the "interfering wife" phase of planning, and I feel sure they heed my advice before pointedly ignoring it....

All seriousness aside, this isn't mine. I only mentioned it by way of explaining my interest in metal strength.
It belongs to The Accomplice, and the pictured truck is the "spare" that he tows behind his- dare I say it here?- motorhome .
That way he doesn't have to buy gas for a TV for the boat, or use the M/H for launching once at camp.
It works pretty well for that purpose. You should see it with the motorcycle rack on the back!

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Old 05-10-2011, 08:44 PM   #80
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Some new pics

Here are some more pictures of the work being done. I have my awning installed [ 14 ft ] One of the bedroom windows is cut out, waiting for the wooden frame I made to dry in place so I can insulate and panel .

Picture of the shower, Looks a lot bigger in the trailer than in the book but it will fit ok

Cabinet where the stereo is for the fridge

Picture also of frame of the closet in the bedroom

When things are paneled should look alot better

Ken
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