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01-20-2018, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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a new quartzite question
ok we now have our plumbing situation figured out you know a portapotte now we have found a tent so we will have an outhouse.
I am thinking of how I am going to secure said outhouse you know not have it blowing over while you are doing your business.
I have heard the ground is pretty hard to I think my solution is take my battery drill and drill holes to secure the pegs.
what do you experts think?
thanks
bob
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01-20-2018, 08:56 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Lyle
Trailer: Scamp 16, previously Scamp 13
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Posts: 739
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As a backpacker, who has tented MANY times on solid rock, the best way is to secure guylines to large (or multiple medium) rocks.
Can do this by either tying directly to a rock, or tying to a normal tent peg, then setting the rock(s) on top of the peg/line. Practice makes perfect and properly done, secures in quite high winds.
Should always aim for LNT - Leave No Trace. When you leave a campsite, no one should be able to tell you were there. That means no digging, return rocks to where you got them, only camp on durable surfaces, and many more principles. Seldom see LNT mentioned in association with trailer/van camping, and that is a shame.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...-no-trace.html
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01-20-2018, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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yes
well I know all that but I am not risking the outhouse blowing over. I think I can drill some small holes and drive the small stakes down. when leaving pull the stakes fill the very small holes and done.
I don't backpack I respect people that do and the things they do everything taken in taken out including you know what. I have seen the trail to mount everestt disgusting but for the part of the world that is what happens.
I think life is going to be fun at quartzite
bob
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01-20-2018, 11:08 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft Plan B
Posts: 2,389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k0wtz
ok we now have our plumbing situation figured out you know a portapotte now we have found a tent so we will have an outhouse.
I am thinking of how I am going to secure said outhouse you know not have it blowing over while you are doing your business.
I have heard the ground is pretty hard to I think my solution is take my battery drill and drill holes to secure the pegs.
what do you experts think?
thanks
bob
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While the ground is hard & rocky, I've never had a problem driving nail type tent pegs (although getting them out can be interesting). The traditional plastic (or even metal) ones don't work all that well...
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01-20-2018, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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I made my own tent pegs out of spikes and poly rope.
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01-20-2018, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ted
Trailer: (Dark side)Crossroads Now
Glade Valley, North Carolina
Posts: 990
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Get some rebar cut in 12” lengths. Then have someone weld heavy duty washers to top of one end on each. Makes great anchors. IMO
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01-20-2018, 12:39 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 17 ft Casita Freedom Deluxe
Posts: 857
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Big rocks, concrete blocks, tubes of sand, gallons of water, I've seen them all holding vendor tents at our local festivals. We get a lot of wind in our area.
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01-20-2018, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Sprinter 'til I buy
Denver, CO
Posts: 944
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Instead of below ground stakes, consider an above ground solution. Look at how the tents and canopies are anchored at shows and exhibits. They often have eyelets set in concrete blocks, or use pvc sewer pipe filled with concrete.
For you, I'd get 4 Home Depot buckets, fill them with water, and snap on the lids. That's 40 lbs each, and easier to set up & take down than concrete anchors.
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01-20-2018, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Bat Dude
Trailer: Escape
Michigan
Posts: 347
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Whoo Hooo say the "Snattle rakes"
I am sure the scorpions and rattle sankes will love it no mater how you fasten it to the ground.
Ok biologist humour.
Bat Dude
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01-20-2018, 10:29 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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yep yep
not hauling water, no doubt I can drive the nails things into the ground just thinking other soultions if the need be.
now some sort of desert desease has came up but I don't care we are going. thanks for the tip on the rattlesnakes the wife will love that one.
while tenting in Hawaii we found some kind of long slingy worm in our tent the natives we camped with said they were dangerous.
oh well
bob
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01-20-2018, 10:40 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack L
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17-Looking for a new one
Washington
Posts: 1,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom 72
Instead of below ground stakes, consider an above ground solution. Look at how the tents and canopies are anchored at shows and exhibits. They often have eyelets set in concrete blocks, or use pvc sewer pipe filled with concrete.
For you, I'd get 4 Home Depot buckets, fill them with water, and snap on the lids. That's 40 lbs each, and easier to set up & take down than concrete anchors.
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Great idea, but use rocks instead of water. Water is much harder to come by than rocks at Quartzsite. Lots of rocks available at Quartzsite.
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01-21-2018, 02:15 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k0wtz
not hauling water, no doubt I can drive the nails things into the ground just thinking other soultions if the need be. bob
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Bob, snakes won't be a worry at this time of year, haven't seen one in two months in my desert, too cold. Unless you bring your own rocks you really won't find much bigger than 6" at the Q area. The 10" metal spikes/nails with washers, from the big box stores, works very well in the Dome Rock ground. Leave your drill at home, a 16oz claw hammer with the flatter claw for removal is fine.
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01-21-2018, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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new for quartzite
thanks for all the interesting comments I will take them all into conideraton I have camped many times in az and we never stated our tent down but this outhouse thing a little different.
to suit the natives there should we put a sign outhouse on
the little guy?
bob
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01-21-2018, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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dave we will be at dome rock look for a red ford edge and a crummy unbraked scamper to roll through there!!
bob
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01-22-2018, 08:25 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: BIGFOOT 25 R.Q.
California
Posts: 10
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Shouldn't be a problem, I stake my screen room and patio mat. The ground is hard but still not a problem using tent stakes.
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01-22-2018, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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well shouldn't be a problem I have dealt with permafrost in Alaska strange stuff!!
thanks
bob
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01-22-2018, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathleen (Kai: ai as in wait)
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16 1973 "Peanut"
Greater Seattle Metropolitan Area, Washington
Posts: 2,566
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Hey, Dave Fish!
How are you doing?
You've seen our milk gallon jugs we bring empty and fill with water...they also work for sand, dirt, gravel...and I especially like putting a drop of food coloring into each one before we fill with water.
BEST
Kai
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01-22-2018, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Scamp 13
California
Posts: 1,889
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I use this type of stake almost everywhere except sand. Most sporting suppliers have them they are pretty cheep. The vendors outside the big tent in Quartzsite carry them and verious other types. We just got back from Quartzsite.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nail...YzSTSHzoOPP0M:
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01-22-2018, 06:45 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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Hard to beat steel pole barn spikes from the lumber company. They are about 8-10 inches long and 3/8th inch in diameter. You can drive them into nearly anything that is not solid rock, though you may need a crow bar to get them out.
If camping on solid rock, just use some 3M VHB tape and secure the tent to the roof of your tow.
Easy elimination to all, john
Pic of rocks near Bryce
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01-22-2018, 07:43 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 21 ft Front Bedroom
Posts: 701
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I would make a wise crack about snakes but that would almost guarantee I get snake bit. A worse hazard is those cholla cactus balls. Bring a good pair of tweezers.
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