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Old 05-07-2007, 02:57 AM   #1
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I especially like the idea of all in one stove/sink. It would sure simplify things. The stainless steel looks great, but where to buy one of these units ?
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:08 AM   #2
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:38 AM   #3
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Uh huh. So when you have to pull your stove for any maintenance, you also have to disconnect your plumbing and pull the sink as well.

My experience with 'combination' units of all types - mechanical, electrical, plumbing and appliance - suggests that the problems also come in combination.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:52 AM   #4
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You could call T@B and ask.

I personally don't like the idea. Too close together. I often have a dish rack up, cooking time or no, so there really would be nowhere to put it. Unless you had counter space on the other side of the sink.

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Uh huh. So when you have to pull your stove for any maintenance, you also have to disconnect your plumbing and pull the sink as well.

My experience with 'combination' units of all types - mechanical, electrical, plumbing and appliance - suggests that the problems also come in combination.
I agree with Jack.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:23 AM   #6
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This is very common in older European trailers.
Dismounting the plumbing of the sink involves only the disconnection of 2 hoses.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:30 AM   #7
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Cool. It looks like there is a folding counter-top to cover the entire galley. Nicely designed. (I suppose this is a BIOD?)

Hey, Suz!! Get a load of that kitchen window!!
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:38 PM   #8
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Why does Europe / Austrailia too! get all the cool stuff?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:19 PM   #9
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Cool. It looks like there is a folding counter-top to cover the entire galley. Nicely designed. (I suppose this is a BIOD?)

Hey, Suz!! Get a load of [b]that kitchen window!!

My question is, do the windows have screens?
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:17 AM   #10
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My question is, do the windows have screens?
Screens are an option.
On the photo you see a mountable unit containing a roll-down curtain and a roll-down fly screen.

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But, this is an old systeem.
Modern trailers have windows with 'built in' curtain and screen.
Example of the kitchen of a modern trailer (BIOD Nomade TLH)
The curtain is in the window unit (roll-down), the screen too (roll-up).

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@Mary: yes, the photo is of our 400TL. More photos of the 400TL on our homepage , index 'BIOD 400TL'
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:35 AM   #11
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Very nice trailer - wish we had dealerships here.

What is the weight of your trailer?
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Old 05-08-2007, 03:12 AM   #12
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What is the weight of your trailer?
Empty trailer (according type plate): 650 kg ( = 1430 lb )
Max loaden mass: 1000 kg ( = 2200 lb )
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:47 AM   #13
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Dometic has combined units among their "cookers and sinks". Some, such as the CE 99 Mini-FC-HI-G, have integral covers, but are designed to drop into an opening, not to serve as the entire counter top.

While Dometic equipment is common here, my guess is that many of the European models are not readily available in North America; DometicUSA doesn't seem to show any stoves or sinks on their website. Some of the recessed and glass-covered units are starting to appear in premium RVs, such as some Class B motorhomes and the latest Trilliums.

I like the idea of a one-piece seamless stainless steel countertop with sink and stove, but the chances of finding one of just the right size with just the right arrangement seem small, and there is the issue of needing to buy both if either needs replacing.
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Dometic has combined units among their "cookers and sinks". Some, such as the CE 99 Mini-FC-HI-G, have integral covers, but are designed to drop into an opening, not to serve as the entire counter top.

While Dometic equipment is common here, my guess is that many of the European models are not readily available in North America; DometicUSA doesn't seem to show any stoves or sinks on their website. Some of the recessed and glass-covered units are starting to appear in premium RVs, such as some Class B motorhomes and the latest Trilliums.

I like the idea of a one-piece seamless stainless steel countertop with sink and stove, but the chances of finding one of just the right size with just the right arrangement seem small, and there is the issue of needing to buy both if either needs replacing.
The (little bit annoying) website of the Italian maker: www.smev.com.

An overview sinks/cookers available (/ to be ordered) in a Dutch camping shop.
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Not annoying! Now I know what a "Hob" is...
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:30 AM   #16
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Thank you Lex for your input. So many of the European RV products seem so superior in design and function to North American RV's. Hopefully many of the stoves, sinks etc. will be accessible to us. Time for an upgrade.
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:56 AM   #17
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Let's face it. The smaller trailers will soon become more popular because of the cost of fuel. There is still a lot of design ideas that have not been tried. Europe has had to deal with space constraints in housing for a long time and it makes sense that a caravan/trailer would also be designed for maximum comfort and efficacy.

While the current designs may not be perfect, in time I bet we see a lot of interesting designs and products.
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Let's face it. The smaller trailers will soon become more popular because of the cost of fuel.
Hmm... I hope so, but what I see a lot of is people just not driving their RV's as often. When they do, they still tow a small car behind it. (The ultimate is the humongous RV towing a Prius.)

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The general public usually is about five years behind changes in lifestyle and only seems to accept change when it greatly impacts their lifestyle. We will not be any different than Europe in the future in my estimation. Fuel at $7 - $8 a gallon has been their norm recently and my buddy in Canada says he is paying $4.25. Even at $5 - $6 there will be significant changes in lifestyles. Not to mention those that have large mortgage payments.

I see smaller and more efficient vehicles and trailers being a necessity and not so much a choice.
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Lex;

Thank you so much for the info! I now have a clear idea of what my Fiber Stream may become during revamp.

We have trailered for a couple of decades, and don't recall ever using the oven unit our trailers came with. In the Fiber Stream, I could use the extra storage.

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