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Old 09-20-2018, 06:51 AM   #41
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Are molded FGF trailers green

The most green articles are those that last the longest. For that reason alone a fiberglass trailer would be included. If you look at the throw away things we use everyday eg. garbage bags, plastic packaging, card board and paper. These are super polluters that end up in land fills every day, all day. Fossil fuels have been singled out as a main contributor( to increase tax revenues for governments)! I was informed years ago that a measure of any Country's pollution would be it's use of products involving sulfuric acid because it will never break down remaining "H2s04" for millions of years. Re-cycling would help if it was more widely used and products were user friendly in the first place eg. blister packs stuck to cardboard containing an item we wish to buy. Blister packs were created to combat shop lifting initially! I intend to pull my Trillium for as long as I can and I will never think of it as a polluter in any way shape or form. It's 42 years old and still in great shape and repairable if needed. Duane
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Old 09-20-2018, 08:12 AM   #42
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If you really want to be green, don't get conceived.

After that, do the best you can. I, too, think of Peanut as a very recycled, green-ish at least unit. When we refurbished the inside, we used mostly recycled items--that is, ply from our neighbor's shed, 2nd hand things found all over the place, Paul's old job, 2nd hand stores, yard sales, our own things we'd had in closets for decades...

I think traveling by trailer is greener than jetting around the world; I think living in our tiny space is greener than staying in giant hotels.

Camping at least demonstrates our love of nature. I'm sure we're all doing our best and intend well for the planet and the living things on it.

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Old 09-20-2018, 08:16 AM   #43
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Sometimes it's hard to tell being green from being cheap.

At our age, living the Mother Earth News lifestyle feels pretty green...

Reusing 40-some year old trailers feels pretty green--and I think it is borne out by facts.

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Old 09-20-2018, 08:31 AM   #44
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I think traveling by trailer is greener than jetting around the world

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Depends how many are travelling with you.
A Boeing 777 gets over 70 MPG per passenger if full.......

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My Lil Snoozy is tan...
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:29 AM   #46
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I realize comparing only fuel usage per flight gallon makes airplanes sound greener than driving.

I KNEW someone was going to bring that up. I shouldn't have mentioned it.

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Old 09-20-2018, 01:08 PM   #47
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Lacking data I doubt the emissions from those jets is as efficient as the modern cars at 3 times the fuel load. Cars are getting better, old cars are getting fewer and jets are getting slightly better mileage But the emissions? There are all sides of the Green movement the ins and the outs. I just let it all pass. My life span is finite, the humans life span is finite.

In the grand scheme of things People will eat its self out of house and home and go extinct, whether its by consumption or tragedy from nature or space.

Our existence is counted in thousands of years but the clock ticks off in millions or billions of years. We just are not relevant in the grand scheme of things. Its like a dog with fleas on the way to the groomers to get a flea bath. When the flood hits their all goners.

It is very conceivable that my trailer will out live me and probably outlived its 2 previous owners before I purchased it. So I guess its pretty green.
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:31 PM   #48
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It is good to keep things in perspective. When seen from a certain scale, nothing matters. Which is why it's important to see things from that scale, but then zoom back a bit and look again. Then a bit farther in and look again. Etc.

In the end, nothing matters...and everything matters.
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In the end, nothing matters...
If nothing else, in a few billion years the sun will expand to a red giant and engulf the earth, which seems like the ultimate in "nothing matters". Unless we get off of this rock, which seems rather unlikely the way things are going.
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Depends how many are travelling with you.
A Boeing 777 gets over 70 MPG per passenger if full...
Interesting. That's just about what we get towing our Scamp with four on board. We have more legroom, better food, and a nicer-looking flight attendant...

Recreational travel is not a green activity. "Eco-tourism" is an oxymoron. The guy in the 45' motorhome pulling a sedan and parking in one spot all winter just might burn fewer hydrocarbons per year. I'm very grateful fiberglass is not biodegradable.

There's no room for smugness in owning a molded fiberglass trailer. But lots of fun!
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I donít think we have to worry about millions of years. Things may be winding down now. The universe was made for us. It is not relevant without us.
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I donít think we have to worry about millions of years. Things may be winding down now. The universe was made for us. It is not relevant without us.

Not sure the universe agrees.

Anyway, thread is now on the verge of religious discussion.
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Yeah, we've gone through philosophy and verged into theology, so 'nuff of that.

With four passengers, our van towing Peanut gets 104 miles per gallon per passenger mile. If I'm figuring it right. That's really not bad! We only lose 2 miles per gallon while towing Peanut; that's pretty good.

Our old Get-Away Van used to get 8 miles per gallon...or 32 miles per gallon per passenger mile for four.

(Though two of those passengers are pugs...so I'm fudging the numbers a little.)

Fascinating discussion.

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With four passengers, our van towing Peanut gets 104 miles per gallon per passenger mile. If I'm figuring it right. That's really not bad! We only lose 2 miles per gallon while towing Peanut; that's pretty good.
So 26 miles per gallon towing a boxy 16' trailer? That's gotta be some kind of record.
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Old 09-21-2018, 08:57 AM   #55
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Green or not green has no bearing on second hand units.
The environmental price has already been paid.
That being said the longer one lasts the greener it is and that does affect the "greenness" of the unit.
I rebuilt a 1985 Scamp and invested some more carbon footprint into a 32 year old trailer, extending it's usefulness for another long time.
If you are in the secondhand market I doubt you are contributing much either way, but keeping from investing new manufacture saves some, but fails to employ people in the manufacture of new trailers.
To each his own, but personally I an more than a little "Cheap" and tend to buy used and extend the life of whatever I buy and make it like new.
Case in point when I wanted a "new" fishing boat I bought a 1995 Hobie Jet Fisherman and fixed it up to save money and the old boat.
The fiberglass boat and fishing "green" or not?
The money I saved was green enough for me.
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Questions:



Should driving an RV for pleasure be against the law?


Should using any kind of fuel or electricity for pleasure be against the law?


If the Earth has 57,308,738 square miles of dry land and 57.3 square miles of that is covered by land fills every year, how many years will it be before the entire Earth is a land fill?


Which is greener, a nuclear powered windmill, a coal powered windmill or an electric powered windmill?



Could a series of those be built to move moist air from the Gulf of California to Death Valley and make a rain forest out of it?



And last: Should bean curds and tofu be the only thing served at the cattle baron's ball?



Answers:


No


No


1,000,000 years


Unknown


Possibly


Only if firearms are prohibited
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Not sure the universe agrees.

Anyway, thread is now on the verge of religious discussion.


Actually it was on theology all along.
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When does a Toyota Prius get the best fuel economy in its lifetime?


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When it is riding with nine other new Priuses on an auto transport truck that is getting 7 mpg. That equates to 70 mpg for each Prius.


Strike that, sorry wrong answer. It is when it is with 19 other Priuses that are smashed flat and are on the way to be "recycled" on a flatbed truck that is getting 7 mpg. That equates to 140 mpg for each Prius.
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We're basically fulltimers. Our seven months on the road we use less stuff by any measure, not that I care, but it's a reality.

Even though we travel about 25.000 miles a year that's half of what we did when we worked. As well we only own a single vehicle.

We no longer fly hardly any where. In 18 years I think we've flown 4 times. Most of the real green activists are flying all over the world to 'green' conferences. You think that they would teleconference instead of 1000'2 of people flying to Bali.

Our trailer is 17 years old, it still houses us beautifully. There's not much we own that lasts that long.

Is a Prius Green? Interesting question? Most burn gas, all use energy to be built, the electricity is overwhelming produced by oil, gas or coal. There are people on this site with trucks that will outlast a Prius.

We once saw a green RV in California on Rt 101. It was a Conestoga type wagon pulled by two horses, it had a wood stove.
:not that green if it burns wood, or has methane gas coming from them horses.
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Really, it kinda comes down to who's doin' the selling....


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