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12-18-2022, 01:40 PM
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Member
Name: DaveWI
Trailer: 2014 16‘ Scamp Deluxe
Wisconsin
Posts: 73
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Boondocking Toilet
I plan to do some boondocking next year and would appreciate any advice on simple toilets. I have a 16‘ Scamp without a toilet. I want something that doesn’t take up a lot of space. Thanks in advance.
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12-18-2022, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Shelby
Trailer: Casita SD
Tennessee
Posts: 1,109
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This?
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12-18-2022, 02:25 PM
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Member
Name: Cotton
Trailer: Casita ID
KY
Posts: 95
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Just make sure that tailgate is securely latched....
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12-18-2022, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Roamer 1
Smith Valley, Nevada
Posts: 2,892
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If you want something inside the trailer, look at the Separett brand, "Tiny" waterless, urine diverting toilet. I have this and it is an excellent choice for avoiding a black tank, having no water hookup, and ease of cleaning. Much simpler and better than the so-called "composting" units.
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12-19-2022, 10:01 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,138
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Happier Camper uses the Laveo Dry Flush and most customers are very satisfied with it ,so much so that it is the standard option on the HCT with no need for a black tank ,although it is still an option . Being able to remove the toilet from the bath now makes your bath a dry bath .
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12-19-2022, 12:57 PM
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Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Escape
Wisconsin
Posts: 64
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Get yourself one of these
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12-19-2022, 09:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Roamer 1
Smith Valley, Nevada
Posts: 2,892
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikmay
Happier Camper uses the Laveo Dry Flush and most customers are very satisfied with it ,so much so that it is the standard option on the HCT with no need for a black tank ,although it is still an option . Being able to remove the toilet from the bath now makes your bath a dry bath .
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The Laveo has some serious drawbacks and though offered in some trailers, it is also being changed out to another brand.
Problems are: It uses exclusive proprietary cartridges, that only work with it and are expensive at about $90. for a pack of three. Each cartridge is only good for 12-15 "flushes". You cannot use the Laveo without their cartridge. Second, everything goes into the same bag. Pee has a much larger volume than the solids, so you end up with a fragile bag full of mostly pee to lift out and get rid of. It's tedious, expensive and likely to break. Third, the Laveo has a battery to run it that must be kept charged, and a gear system to wind up and close off the bag between flushes. A complicated mechanism that must keep working or the whole thing is useless. And finally, the cost for one is about $1,000. Then the cartridges are a constant cost.
One of these came in my trailer when new. I used it until we got home and then pulled it out and gave it back to the dealer. Throwing away a bag with about three or four gallons of pee, and solids is a problem. The bag will break and leak all over in any barrel or dumpster. And it cannot be poured into a toilet at a campground.
This is why the Separett brand waterless toilets are much better. Easily available glad bags at 3-4 cents each in boxes of 80 bags, or use plastic shopping bags left over from the grocery store, that get dumped with only a small volume of semi-dry solids with almost no odor. The pee can be plumbed to the gray tank or go into an attached reusable bottle that can be carried out and dumped very easily.
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12-19-2022, 09:27 PM
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Member
Name: DaveWI
Trailer: 2014 16‘ Scamp Deluxe
Wisconsin
Posts: 73
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Thanks.
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12-20-2022, 07:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Shelby
Trailer: Casita SD
Tennessee
Posts: 1,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raspy
The Laveo has some serious drawbacks....
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Wow! I know alternative toilets have their place but this makes me appreciate the no drama traditional black tank, dump when you do the gray.
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12-20-2022, 08:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,962
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I was reading about the Separett and happened to catch that Amazon has a limited quantity available at what seems to be a good price. Just an FYI...
https://www.amazon.com/Separett-Wate.../dp/B08SGM65FK
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12-20-2022, 09:14 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raspy
The Laveo has some serious drawbacks and though offered in some trailers, it is also being changed out to another brand.
Problems are: It uses exclusive proprietary cartridges, that only work with it and are expensive at about $90. for a pack of three. Each cartridge is only good for 12-15 "flushes". You cannot use the Laveo without their cartridge. Second, everything goes into the same bag. Pee has a much larger volume than the solids, so you end up with a fragile bag full of mostly pee to lift out and get rid of. It's tedious, expensive and likely to break. Third, the Laveo has a battery to run it that must be kept charged, and a gear system to wind up and close off the bag between flushes. A complicated mechanism that must keep working or the whole thing is useless. And finally, the cost for one is about $1,000. Then the cartridges are a constant cost.
One of these came in my trailer when new. I used it until we got home and then pulled it out and gave it back to the dealer. Throwing away a bag with about three or four gallons of pee, and solids is a problem. The bag will break and leak all over in any barrel or dumpster. And it cannot be poured into a toilet at a campground.
This is why the Separett brand waterless toilets are much better. Easily available glad bags at 3-4 cents each in boxes of 80 bags, or use plastic shopping bags left over from the grocery store, that get dumped with only a small volume of semi-dry solids with almost no odor. The pee can be plumbed to the gray tank or go into an attached reusable bottle that can be carried out and dumped very easily.
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Your points are well taken ,however there are many variables to the equation mostly dealing with the numbers one and two . The op was seeking a source for a toilet that does not involve a black tank and there are many here with small trailers that do not have or want that option .
The Dryflush is an expensive toilet and yes the cartridges are close to a$1.00 a flush and would be a huge waste if that’s how you use it . . The dryflush is really an emergency backup and can also function as a typical bag system ,I simply place a gelled wag bag over the toilet under the seat and use it strictly for number 1 and dispose in the morning like thousands of other campers do ,easy peasy cheap and effective and then head to the bathroom in the morning wether it be the campground or some where else for more serious business just like almost every other camper does even though they have black tanks . This works great of course if you have washroom facilities nearby . If however I am camping far from any facilities which is rare I have my backup and trust me that $1.00 flush becomes a bargain . I have never had a problem disposing of the cartridges and have never had a issue of them breaking and have never heard of any customers complain of breakage and if there was it would be the number One topic on their fg group .After many years of trying different systems this seems to be the best especially being able to remove it from the bathroom to use the shower and yes I believe Laveo is working on a much better biodegradable cartridge that will make the system even better .
As in most cases when it comes to toilets there will be controversy and different opinions ,what works for some may not work for others .
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12-20-2022, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1993 Bigfoot 17 ftCB / 2003 Honda Odyssey
Posts: 231
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Boondocking Toilet
I noticed that no-one has been pushing the standard or smaller Porta Potty. Over the years I have had, and used several types and sizes and found them to be totally adequate, compact, easy to dump, and relatively sanitary. Dumping is easy into any standard toilet.
They are mostly around the $100 mark and available at almost all big stores or online.
Good bang for the buck!
Mike .....>
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12-20-2022, 10:31 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Pupeza
I noticed that no-one has been pushing the standard or smaller Porta Potty. Over the years I have had, and used several types and sizes and found them to be totally adequate, compact, easy to dump, and relatively sanitary. Dumping is easy into any standard toilet.
They are mostly around the $100 mark and available at almost all big stores or online.
Good bang for the buck!
Mike .....>
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Yes Porta potty’s are a great and well proven system and can be just as good as any other portable system as long as you can drain it soon after using as it can be smelly , The Laveo or something similar will not smell even after days a use ,even a black tank system can smell if not treated right .
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12-21-2022, 12:00 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Pupeza
I noticed that no-one has been pushing the standard or smaller Porta Potty. Over the years I have had, and used several types and sizes and found them to be totally adequate, compact, easy to dump, and relatively sanitary. Dumping is easy into any standard toilet.
They are mostly around the $100 mark and available at almost all big stores or online.
Good bang for the buck!
Mike .....>
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We almost exclusively Boondock and use a Theadford porta potty. There is no smell while using happy campers toilet treatment. Between my wife and I we can go as long as a week before emptying it. I take the bottom portion only in our tow vehicle and simply dump it in any toilet.
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12-21-2022, 03:35 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 13 ft
Posts: 2,038
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When we had our "Lady Bug" a 1979 Boler, we had a Theeadford Porta-Potty and I think the Boler's front bench seat was designed for this toilet in mind as it fit right under the seat in middle compartment that opened in the front and top.
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12-21-2022, 12:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jerrybob
Trailer: casita
Washington
Posts: 706
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In hunting camp.....we use an old potty chair......of course.....we don't use the bucket part.....just dig a small hole with a camp shovel......and bury it. Our chair has been around for years....if it could talk.....there would be some very funny stories.
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