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06-20-2012, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul
SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 196
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Butyl Tape...but this is different...no really
Its not just for sealing out rain any more.
I have a large granite rock at the end of my driveway next to the street with a nearly vertical face. I dragged it out of the woods and put it there so I could put brass street address numbers on it.
The problem is that I am hesitant to drill any holes in it. Might it crack the rock? What if I want different numbers with a different hole pattern? I would have ruined a very nice rock.
So I glued the brass numbers on with various adhesives. They all failed in a short time. Hot glue worked the best but still does not hold for more than about 6 months. I think the hot/cold cycles works it loose. Most certainly the news paper delivery person aims for those numbers to try an knock them off!
A few months ago it had fallen off and I we had a family gathering approaching so I had to get it back on. I was running out of time and was going into my shop to get the hot glue gun once again when I spied a roll of butyl tape that I use on my U-Haul.
Could it be? Could this sticky stuff actually hold the brass number onto a rock? I cleaned off all the old hot glue, cleaned it with lighter fluid and stuck it onto the rock with a strip of butyl tape. It stuck very nicely.
It got me through the family gathering. But surely when it got hot it would slump off. Well, today it hit about 98 air temp plus direct sun. Still sticking securely. We will see how it holds up this coming winter. But no hurry...really...
Craig T.
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06-20-2012, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Rene
Trailer: Bigfoot 2500 truck camper
British Columbia
Posts: 233
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Here's hoping it holds up for you! I just tried a roll of the stuff last night on my boler. Pretty impressive stuff compared to putty.
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06-20-2012, 04:37 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Oh sure, but did you try silicone?
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06-20-2012, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul
SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 196
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Thomas, Thomas, Thomas...
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06-20-2012, 06:30 PM
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Member
Name: Robert
Trailer: 1985 scamp 13ft
Oregon
Posts: 49
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Butyl tape is wonderful stuff! I have stuck motorcycle side covers, Interior trim pieces with broken tabs and set windshields. But.. it only compresses so far with ease, you may break stuff. I use putty Flat or Rope on rivets and Rivnuts and have been using it for close to 38 years with good results, Silisone type sealants don't stay And if I am worried about the rivet center a little automotive drip check adhesive.
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06-20-2012, 07:19 PM
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#6
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,640
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Purchase some Brass Numbers with double sided tape on the back already applied then peal off the paper and apply.
Be sure to CLEAN the area where you want the numbers with rubbing alcohol first.
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06-21-2012, 01:31 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul
SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 196
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92 deg F + direct sun today.
Still holding on securely.
I am not that curious so can we skip the 100 deg F test?
Craig T.
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06-21-2012, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Butyl tape for bedding vents windows thruhulls is versatile. Many of us have rubber gasketing on the fixed glazing which tends to shrink with time and exposure. An open mitre in this stuff allows rain water to wash down the glass in quantity and add to the water in the drain channel for sliding sash, sometimes enuf to overwhelm the drainage capability of weep holes in the window frame. New gasket is the ideal solution. Butyl tape pressed into the gaps blocks this drainage; an acceptable interim solution. Debris should be removed from the area (compressed air or a toothbrush and Windex of other cleaning solution) first. A bit of touchup with a black MagicMarker turns the butyl from gray to black to match most black finishes on aluminum window frames.
jack
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06-21-2012, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Jack,
My kind of man, I'm always using magic markers around the house for marks on shoes, furniture, etc. An old military trick I learned. I always but a nice new set with various colors to match my needs.
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06-21-2012, 04:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Yeh, I was always the realist; shoe polish for gunstocks and furniture, patination by dirt, getting the dogs to show a little concern for tasteful patterns when going in the house. The only trick I learned in the military was body in drive, mind in neutral.
jack
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06-21-2012, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Have you tried pouring some latex paint on a tile floor, letting it dry and then wiping down the tiles, viola, new looking grout? Or, during your final house walk thru you see a hole in the wall that you missed, stick some toothpaste in the hole to hide the hole.
Sounds like Hints from Heloise?
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07-03-2013, 06:23 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul
SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 196
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I am sure that you have all been anxiously awaiting my 1 year report.
I am quite excited to report that the number attached with butyl caulk is still holding securely onto the rock. It has been on for about 14 months, seeing 100 deg F to low teens.
The other number attached with hod glue fell off yesterday. This number has held the longest for hot glue. Most times it falls off within 6 months. This one held close to 18 months.
This rock is a convenient target for the news paper delivery person so I believe the news papers hitting the brass number contributes to the adhesive failures. Of course when the paper misses the rock it lands in the garden where I have to wade in to find it, but that is another discussion...
This number will now be cleaned off and attached with butyl caulk to continue the research. Being as this material is one of the most important components to our little homes, I will continue to execute this long term research study and provide periodic updates.
Craig T.
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07-03-2013, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas G.
Oh sure, but did you try silicone?
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I just got ZAPPED!
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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07-03-2013, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,021
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Those 100 degree days can be butyl... er, brutal!
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07-06-2013, 03:00 PM
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#15
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Scampless in Oregon
Oregon
Posts: 110
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yikes!
All this talk about butyl tape has given me some concern.... I don't have any!
I know the day will come that I will need some, so perhaps someone will be kind enough to enlighten me as to: best brand and where to purchase!
Thanks in advance!
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07-06-2013, 03:15 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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No picture, no proof!
Francesca ...
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07-06-2013, 03:19 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
Posts: 2,273
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jack smith
All this talk about butyl tape has given me some concern.... I don't have any!
I know the day will come that I will need some, so perhaps someone will be kind enough to enlighten me as to: best brand and where to purchase!
Thanks in advance!
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Any big RV place with a parts counter should have it. There's a Boat 'n RV Warehouse on the way to & from work that I buy it from. They always have to go in back to get it, but they always produce.
Great stuff to have around, as everyone here says. Good luck!
Frank
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