Originally Posted by Steve and Rosemary
Maybe a little contrary to this post, we're hoping a *benefit* of the Scamp
5er is the loft bed. We like the looks of the deluxe because it makes the bed a little private. Plus, we like the taller front bathroom because the man of the house is about 6'2". We're also hoping the loft bed will be a little more comfortable than our 16' dinette bed. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
Maybe more to the point: can anyone measure the largest rectangle that fits in their deluxe 5er loft bed?
And of course, we'd love to see (and lay in) a Deluxe 5er if there are any floating around northern Utah!
As others have suggested, you should definitely check one out in person before making a decision to buy. We'll be in southern Utah a bit later this year if you'd like to take a look at ours. Come on down in the 16' and camp with us for a while. I'll send you a PM with more info.
To address some of the valid concerns mentioned here. I just went out and measured the loft dimensions in our 01 Scamp
19 front bath deluxe.
Left inside wall to right inside wall (at the top of the stairs)........73"
Left corner (next to the bath bulkhead) to right inside front (street side corner).... 85"
Center width (from bath bulkhead at top of stairs) to front inside wall......... 57"
As stated earlier, I'm 6'4" and 250#'s. Cindy is 5'6" and much closer to her acquisition weight
(forty years ago this June). I sleep next to the bath bulkhead with my feet towards the steps- sometimes curled up; sometimes at an angle. I haven't kicked a screen out yet. She doesn't have a problem getting by me if she needs to get up first. Our preference is definitely for the front bath floor plan.
We found the Scamp
cushions to be awful for sleeping but live only a few miles from Southern Mattress in Rocky Mount, NC. We had them make a custom mattress for a 16' and did the same when we got the 19'. We think they were/are as good as what we have at home and I'm pretty sure there are others on this board who have their products. Bedding is from the now defunct Trav-a-Sak folks and works great.
Good points about air movement in the forward berth. I installed a Maxx Fan above the bed and that solved this for both heat and cooling. We mostly dry camp and have a genset which could power the AC but we very seldom use it since installing the fan. Having it on a low exhaust setting pulls warm air up to keep us comfortable.
Our 19' did not have the axle
weld problems but our sixteen did. The separation is easily identified and a fifteen minute fix for a reasonably competent welder. We were second owners of the 16 and Scamp did not offer any compensation when I sent them before and after pictures. The axle
was not affected, only the mounting brackets, so I doubt they'll spring for a replacement.
We tow with a 4WD Tacoma short bed (60") double cab. Our 73 qt Ozark Trail cooler, Honda EU3000i genset and a Scepter 5 gal fuel can fit side by side in the front of the bed on a platform and there's still enough clearance to turn the truck almost ninety degress before any interference with the trailer. A Baja roof rack provides additional storage capacity. Good point about not leaving any lighter objects in the bed without securing them. I accused Cindy of leaving our wheel chocks behind more than once until I saw one bouncing down the highway behind us.
Would we love to have an Escape
5.0TA? Absolutely. I've only seen their bumper pull models firsthand but have been thoroughly impressed with their design and quality. Would owning one make our camping experiences any better? I doubt it. Its taken us a good while to come up with what works for us and I think we're finally there.