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Old 04-19-2017, 05:36 AM   #41
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Thank you to those that understand!

I think I'm done with this thread. I will think 3x before posting again. Thank you everybody for your replies! If a moderator is reading, this entire thread can be deleted LOL.
I do understand your question, and I would tell you that it is your trailer, do as you wish, although I would personally get a blue tote. That way you can dump whenever necessary. Even if you were to combine your two holding tanks, fresh water obviously excluded, at some point in time they would fill up and require dumping.

What I don't understand, or condone, is your response. As Glenn stated, you asked a question. If in doing so you open up a can of worms, the worms are going to get out. Some people may please you by baiting your hook, while others will simply refuse. This has been a good discussion with lots of varying opinions, some biased, put forward. It is your right not to post again, but I perceive that approach somewhat the same as when an adolescent doesn't get his way and announces that "it's my ball and if you won't play by my rules, I'm going home." I also perceive that the "negative" responses have hurt your feelings somewhat. I surely hope that you don't believe you are the only person on this forum that has ever felt "persecuted." It happens all the time. The vast majority of people here are NOT malicious. They only state their opinions on topics that arise. Just because some are "passionate" in the way they respond doesn't mean they are right or they are criticizing you for your question.
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What I don't understand, or condone, is your response. As Glenn stated, you asked a question. If in doing so you open up a can of worms, the worms are going to get out. Some people may please you by baiting your hook, while others will simply refuse. This has been a good discussion with lots of varying opinions, some biased, put forward. It is your right not to post again, but I perceive that approach somewhat the same as when an adolescent doesn't get his way and announces that "it's my ball and if you won't play by my rules, I'm going home. I also perceive that the "negative" responses have hurt your feelings somewhat. I surely hope that you don't believe you are the only person on this forum that has ever felt "persecuted." It happens all the time. The vast majority of people here are NOT malicious. They only state their opinions on topics that arise. Just because some are "passionate" in the way they respond doesn't mean they are right or they are criticizing you for your question.
I totally agree and apologize. I think I felt a little piled up on and many even took my original question and added to it like the fresh tank comment or people talking about solids. We have never used our rv for going #2. So when it got further into doing things I never even asked or intended I felt piled up on, or had an "I give up" moment. Anyway I agree my reply was wrong. And yes, I did ask! Please don't delete this.

I must also add we are probably the most respectful camp neighbors you would have. I would never dump food out period, or even a pan of dish water close to anybody. We have septic at home and know food gets scraped into the trash before dishes washed. If I were to dump a pan of dishwater out it would be in a remote area. Most of the places we camp are rustic and rural, not concrete jungles all packed in.

Anyway again I apologize to all for my short remark. And thank you for your thoughts!
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:57 AM   #43
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Grey water rules vary, so I always ask at check-in. Some have wash stations they want you to use, some want you to pour it down drains near the campsites, some want you to lug it to the bathhouses, and some are okay with pouring it out in an inconspicuous place. Even then, they often limit disposal to small quantities, not a whole grey tank.

99% seems hyperbolic, but in terms of developed campgrounds, open dumping of grey water is definitely not the norm.

Used to be camping was camping. But times have changed. There're a lot of people out there, and effects are cumulative. It's no fun when your kids are playing in bushes near the camp and turn up mounds of scum and food scraps from previous campers.

Tread lightly!
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If that is a true statement, then I would conclude you haven't been in many places. And I will have to start wearing latex gloves when it rains for fear of rain water dripping off of my badly contaminated hands and landing on the pristine ground that birds and other wildlife never sully with their feces.
Evidently the wildlife in Floriduh must be more civilized and technically advanced. The wildlife in our area deficate and urinate wherever and whenever they see fit , often in my yard.

I really enjoy people who think they are great self appointed environemental stewart because they dump their waste water in a public sewer and pass the problem down stream. Dumping your grey water or black water in a pit toilet is still dumping it on the ground only at a level closer to the ground water table..

In my book it's hard to run around the country , in a fossil fuel powered vehicle , towing a 5000 lb trailer with every modern convenience , viewing with thousands of others highly crowded pristine sights , while consuming water from a plastic bottle and claim moral superiority because you belong to the Sierra Club.

I admit to dumping grey water on the ground . I run my grey water through a screen to remove food scraps and use it to extinguish my campfire or water the plants.

I offer no apology nor do I feel any superiority for my position.
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Wasn't making a statement about "moral superiority," Steve. Just about following the local rules. You do that, right?

One of the reasons there are so many animals urinating and defecating on your campsite is they are attracted by all the food scraps campers leave behind. The problem is not that animals are uncivilized, but that they have become too civilized.
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I've wondered ALLL my life why "The grass is always greener on the other side."! NOW for the first time, I KNOW....after 7 yrs of dumping my black tank and letting it run under the neighbor's fence................



Ok ok ok... MOB CONTROL here..I was kidding! .... We love our segregated black/grey tanks. The old "grey" mare washes out the slinky before storing! YES!
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Evidently the wildlife in Floriduh must be more civilized and technically advanced. The wildlife in our area deficate and urinate wherever and whenever they see fit , often in my yard.

I really enjoy people who think they are great self appointed environemental stewart because they dump their waste water in a public sewer and pass the problem down stream. Dumping your grey water or black water in a pit toilet is still dumping it on the ground only at a level closer to the ground water table..

In my book it's hard to run around the country , in a fossil fuel powered vehicle , towing a 5000 lb trailer with every modern convenience , viewing with thousands of others highly crowded pristine sights , while consuming water from a plastic bottle and claim moral superiority because you belong to the Sierra Club.

I admit to dumping grey water on the ground . I run my grey water through a screen to remove food scraps and use it to extinguish my campfire or water the plants.

I offer no apology nor do I feel any superiority for my position.
Yup, the wildlife in Florida-duh, unlike anyplace else, goes to wildlife restrooms connected to wastewater treatment systems, and would never soil the ground. And Steve, I bet you, like me, have urinated (gasp) or even defecated (double-gasp) in the woods.
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Thanks for the laughs guys! I was taking each post personally at me because I was the OP. I realize it's just expressions of opinions now. I'm learning to play without quitting! Ha

I do feel bad tho for my reply last night. I'd still like to buy everybody a beer, but only if you empty the reprocessed beer behind a tree!
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Wasn't making a statement about "moral superiority," Steve. Just about following the local rules. You do that, right?

One of the reasons there are so many animals urinating and defecating on your campsite is they are attracted by all the food scraps campers leave behind. The problem is not that animals are uncivilized, but that they have become too civilized.
Jon , I was not talking about my campsite ,I was talking about at my cabin in the woods. Various animals wander through my yard on a daily basis , not because there are food scraps everywhere but to get to the lake for water.
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Yup, the wildlife in Florida-duh, unlike anyplace else, goes to wildlife restrooms connected to wastewater treatment system, and would never soil the ground. And Steve, I bet you, like me, have urinated (gasp) or even defecated (double-gasp) in the woods.
I have on occasion watered or fertilized the plant life while out in the woods deer hunting. I offer no excuses and am not proud of my actions. This deer season, I plan on hunting from the outhouse just to be safe and satisfy enviromental concerns .

All these things need to be put in their proper prospective.
The notion that your pollution is wrong but mine is okay , escapes me?
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Not to be gross but I used to boat a lot on lake Cumberland (hence the user name) and the lake rules were to "go" 60ft off shore and bury it a little bit. Posted right in the lake pamphlets from DNR. I believe it's still that way. After you got done you continued swimming!
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This deer season, I plan on hunting from the outhouse just to be safe and satisfy enviromental concerns.
Will your modified hunting stand be secured 15-20 feet up a tree, or will you be using a "ground stand." I have always found tree stands more effective. An elevated outhouse conjures up all new mental images!
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Will your modified hunting stand be secured 15-20 feet up a tree, or will you be using a "ground stand." I have always found tree stands more effective. An elevated outhouse conjures up all new mental images!
My regular deer stand is 20 feet in the air . It is lined with knotty pine T&G paneling , fully insulated , carpeted floor , propane heat
( vented) . stained plywood siding , a padded reclining chair and Anderson thermopane low E glass casement windows
It complies with all the energy codes.

My hunting buddy has 12V DC lights ,TV and solar in his deer stand.
He likes to watch the Packer game when hunting.

I will have to modify our outhouse so it works as a deer blind .
The funny part is , I saw more deer last year when sitting in the outhouse than sitting in my stand .
We went 3 for 3 last season , so I can't complain.

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A lot of camper companies are starting to use just one tank. The new Airstream Bambi just has one tank
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Shoot yeah Joe...you gotta be tough to hang with these guys! They'll shake yer hand and pop u in the gut at the same time! And we gotta admit, we like a good "skirmish" now and then- war of words etc. It's called "the internet".

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Thanks for the laughs guys! I was taking each post personally at me because I was the OP. I realize it's just expressions of opinions now. I'm learning to play without quitting! Ha

I do feel bad tho for my reply last night. I'd still like to buy everybody a beer, but only if you empty the reprocessed beer behind a tree!
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A lot of camper companies are starting to use just one tank. The new Airstream Bambi just has one tank
Yea I can see the advantages of both designs! For my wife and I one tank would work better because it gives us max capacity of what we need and since we only use the John for #1 we could go longer boondocking without need to empty tanks. Makes sense to me, hence my original post. But I also understand why some would prefer separate.
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Shoot yeah Joe...you gotta be tough to hang with these guys! They'll shake yer hand and pop u in the gut at the same time! And we gotta admit, we like a good "skirmish" now and then- war of words etc. It's called "the internet".
Thanks Darrel T. I'll toughen up and start another controversial thread but be prepared next time! Ha!
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I wouldn't mind being able to empty the gray tank at a slow dribble while driving down the interstate. Maybe someone could invent a remote electronic valve? Maybe for both tanks, in case we have an annoying tailgater.
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I wouldn't mind being able to empty the gray tank at a slow dribble while driving down the interstate. Maybe someone could invent a remote electronic valve? Maybe for both tanks, in case we have an annoying tailgater.
Emptying the gray has been done like that by some folks. Every once in a while, on the highway, I've come up on an RV to pass and had a very fine mist hit the windshield . Always seemed to be on Sundays too as they where on their way home.
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Thick skin Joe, you need thick skin. In a similar discussion a while back I was bragging on having a porti pot and that I could dump in any toilet. That brought down the wrath of someone who had walked into a campground toilet only to find a mess left by someone who missed while dumping. How they missed is beyond me but as far as this fellow was concerned it was my fault. Obviously, it had a big impact on him. Don't forget to duck.
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