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Old 04-18-2006, 07:03 PM   #1
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Jim Palmer asked me to post these photos of his prototype trailer he's calling the "EggCamper". He says he intends it to be marketed to the rental/commercial market. It looks great to me!


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His URL is: The EggCamper

We all wish him well in his venture!

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Old 04-18-2006, 08:05 PM   #2
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SMoooooooTH!

... but ... shower? lav? galley (fridge, stove, cutlery drawer)? fans? furnace? Any place to store parcheesi?

Or is it more of a mobile insurance office? (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

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Old 04-18-2006, 08:11 PM   #3
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It's more eggy than most of our campers. Looks great to me.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:37 PM   #4
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Very nice!
I like the radius-corner cabinet doors and the upper, corner cabinet.
The FG walls are slick and the carpeting down the middle to hide the seam is good.
The low seatback cushions make the dinettes look like a space-age board room.
Also, very nice "pillar" molded in to the right of the sink.
I love all the round lights (LEDs, hopefully) and their placement, especially the high location of the taillights.
I like the U-shape of the rear dinette - I'm planning to modify my table to make a similar arrangement.
I almost put the lack of a rear window in the following list, but reconsidered...it is cozy in there, and that's a great place for a TV. It also makes the back of the rig look great from the outside. I guess I don't need a FRONT window, so....

My constructive criticism:
1. The dropping stripe makes the trailer look "big bottomed", or like it's pulling down its pants!! A straight stripe would remedy this.
2. Find whoever makes the tracked window shades in the T@B and use those - I hate the miniblinds in my coach and think they look out-of-date. They don't look right in this clean, new design either.
3. Something besides standard woodgrain would look good on those cabinet doors - maybe they could be made from something like solid color plastic, like the kind that plastic cutting boards are made of. Or maybe dark wood or super light wood.
4. "Eggcamper" would be off-putting to me as a brand name. My coach never gets called an egg or a camper. Sometimes it's called a pod. The design is good and spare and space-age on this new trailer; maybe a futuristic name? With gas prices blisteringly high, how about a name that suggests conservation?

I notice there's a bulkhead forward of the 2-seat dinette - IS there a bathroom hiding somewhere in there?! Couldn't get along without one!

Good luck with the fine-looking new product!

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Old 04-18-2006, 09:51 PM   #5
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I most certainly agree with this:

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1. The dropping stripe makes the trailer look "big bottomed", or like it's pulling down its pants!! A straight stripe would remedy this.
That is the very first thing I thought when I saw the website. I think all the rest is great.

I am going to make an assumtion that it is double hulled as the furniture looks completley molded.

Looks like he is taking all the structural +s of the Burro/Uhaul design and marrying them with the upscaleness of the Casita.

Will there be a 13????
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:00 PM   #6
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Wow. I think the dropped stripe makes it look distinctive. I really like it. Accentuates the curve of the back somehow...

I'd like the trailer better if it had more windows... and I, too, don't think much of "egg camper" as a name. (To me a "camper" is what goes on the back of a pickup.)

But, picky, picky. The wood inside is beautiful, the furniture is sleek (as has already been pointed out). It's a good start.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:06 PM   #7
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A fiberglass egg with buttcheeks!!

I love it!
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:08 PM   #8
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I'd like to stripe my Casita like this...



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This gives the taillights on the EggCamper something to "rest" on, visually.

OK, maybe somebody with a steadier hand could do the painting!!!

I had them leave off the stripe on mine because it looked swirly and girly...afraid the net effect is my coach looks like a utility trailer!

I'll fix it one of these days!

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Old 04-18-2006, 10:10 PM   #9
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The first thing I noticed was the lack of windows.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:16 PM   #10
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I definitely like the window in the door of mine. And I'm glad it's clear and not frosted glass.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:25 PM   #11
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Or it might look good to reverse the drop...

This visually anchors the bigger window AND the taillights:




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Low in the front, high in the back also suggests speed...like in auto design. I guess that's why I don't like the rear-dropping stripe - it makes it look slow.

I like the 'round-the-top seam...on the Casita any striping is pretty much limited to the belly band.

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Old 04-18-2006, 10:54 PM   #12
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I just studied the photos a little closer.

It looks like there are only 4 primary molds for this trailer...two for the shell exterior, and two for the interior.

It looks to me like the upper cabinets all the way down to the seat bases are one-piece, one for each side. I would guess some insulation between interior/exterior?

That would be an improvement over the piece-by-piece interior of the Casita.

Were Burro's made this way?

'Guess that's why it looks so slick...no seams/joints.

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Old 04-19-2006, 12:04 AM   #13
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There was an RV dealer in Colorado that had a handful of brand new Scamp 13' for sale. I stopped and asked why -- Turns out the owner bought them with the intention of rental RVs, but after they were delivered, he got around to checking liability insurance and decided the wisest course of action was to sell the Scamps.

UHaul used to rent trailers.

Is there really a market for 2,000 lb rental trailers....

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Old 04-19-2006, 04:36 AM   #14
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Double-hulled and vertically-seamed - clearly, a superior design!
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There was an RV dealer in Colorado that had a handful of brand new Scamp 13' for sale. I stopped and asked why -- Turns out the owner bought them with the intention of rental RVs, but after they were delivered, he got around to checking liability insurance and decided the wisest course of action was to sell the Scamps.

UHaul used to rent trailers.

Is there really a market for 2,000 lb rental trailers....

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My former employer had trailers and buses outfitted with demo products that were taken to remote customer locations, trade shows and the like for dog and pony shows, field product demonstrations. I could see them renting a dozen or so units to work sales magic in. They'd be used to bring the customer in out of the heat or cold, offer him libation, sit him down and work sales magic. There are niche markets within niche markets.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:17 AM   #16
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Wow, so many idea! I never noticed the lack of withdows. The ones there look pretty good IF they open. as I look back - one in the door would be nice, and maybe one over the sink. I could add these myself.

Clear cabinet doors?? I might like that.

A space age name could be interesting, but the name isn't a real issue to me. Maybe a model name of?? SPACE. I love my space.

What's the inside height? That is something I would need to know.

Main thing, is I WOULD save up for one of these IF they came with a bath and shower.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:39 AM   #17
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I wonder if there's a bath and shower by the door -- like the 17' Burro had. There is a couple of black thingies on the roof that could be vent pipes but they don't have the normal caps. Still it sure looks like it could have black and gray tanks. Since I haven't found a view of the front, I wonder if there's propane on the tongue. If there is a stove, then I wonder where it is.

I see both hot and cold on the faucet, but I don't see a water heater vent. How about an air conditioner? Could it be in the front?

I like the size and the look (minus the stripe as I've really come to like no decals). I do wish it was just a tad further off the ground. That rear could drag on some of the dips I've been on.

I'm definitely interested in getting more information on it. Like when, where, and how much and exactly what does it have?
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:43 AM   #18
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... and I don't see refrigerator vents. How 'bout a spare tire.


Hey ... this IS just a prototype. This stuff just probably isn't in yet.

Overall, I do like its looks.
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:04 AM   #19
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Jana - SPACE - I like that...it's just retro enough too. How about COSMOS? Hopefully wouldn't refer to the price! And oooh, clear cabinet doors...you're on to something. Maybe you and I should just open our own brand!
Suz, it does look low to the ground, especially when one is used to the raised rear of the 16' Casita.
I like the stance on the wheels though. Wide track makes it look sporty. Coupled with 88" width might make it more challenging to tow than I'm used to. I haven't seen a Burro or Uhaul in some years...are they that wide?
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The Burro's 90" wide according to their specs.

17 foot Burro travel trailer
Length - 17 feet 8 inches
Height - 7 feet 10 inches
Width - 7 feet 6 inches
Dry Weight - 1800 lbs.
Hitch Weight - 125 lbs.

In this picture, the Burro appears to me to be higher off the ground, but it's hard to tell.
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