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Old 10-18-2009, 07:00 AM   #21
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Hi: All... This posting is just a "Biased Bump". To good a thread to let languish...IMHO.
We've had many people look at our trailer, some before I've even set foot out of the truck, and all say the quality is very apparent!!!
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:10 AM   #22
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I am just a little confused on the drainage holes around the edge? The idea is really great because this way water can't sit inside the trailer and soak the wood floor from a broken pipe, etc but wouldn't that be an easy way for ants or other critters to get inside from the outside thru those holes?____ What would stop rain water while traveling thru big puddles from splashing up and getting the interior wet?_____ I'm sure there is a simple answer and sometimes i just get "Brain Freeze".
I have to say i am really interested in an Escape trailer and have directed a friend of mine to this brand that never had a fiberglass trailer before.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:18 AM   #23
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Think of it like a funnel. Water can enter the large open area on top and drain through the small lower holes but it's much harder for the water to enter from the lower side where the 1/4 inch holes are.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:35 PM   #24
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Think of it like this: Sure a trailer's spinning wheels can splash water up into the hole, but the point of having the hole there is to allow water to flow back out. Based on the very essence of a favorite physicist (Newton) and popular Blood Sweat and Tears rock song "What goes up, must come down. Spinning wheels got to go round." ;-)

As for the ants . . . they can squeeze in through any number of small gaps and spaces, so short of putting a dab of insecticide around the tires and hookup hoses and cords there's no keeping them out. If you do get ants at some point simply moving the trailer from one place to another will generally end the infestation.

What you really don't want in your trailer is a place ants might like as a nesting spot. What they look for is wide (by ant standards) very narrow space between two surfaces where they can build easily protected nursery colonies. The big, open spaces of the pontoons don't really qualify.

Kudos to Reace for improving on the Trillium design by making the "pontoon" gutters deeper and providing more vent holes. Our Trillium-inspired Surfside project tralier has a rotten floor problem because the gutters were not quite deep enough and only one vent hole was drilled at either end, so when I came to pick the old maid up and tilted her on her axle a lot of water poured out.

The whole floor may have to be replaced.
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It's not the ants
This guy thought he culd take my tire at Emily.

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These were all over the camp at Martin River.
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Geeesh!
Somehow the pictures got interchanged and when I tried to edit them I ended up back on my main page.
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thanks peter and james..... that is a very logical explanation..... especially the funnel concept. I liked the escape before and even like it more now.
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I just had another escape construction question. The belly seam photo, are screws or rivets used all the way around? and what purpose do they serve? Since the two halves are fiberglassed together, do they simply hold the seam trim or add strength to the whole structure by screwing all the way through the top and bottom half lips? Third, do the penetrate all the way through the shell? Thanks again.

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Hi: Ken C... Most of the fasteners around the joint seam just hold the metal base for the rubber rub strip. There are however places where they hold into the wood blocks glassed in to hold the interior cabinets in place. For that reason I think Escape uses screws to do the job whether they just bite into the multi layers of fiberglass or into the wood blocks. I have yet to pull open that seam cover but am going to when "Our Escape Hatch" is out of storage!!!
The top and bottom molds are glassed together and then left to dry before being unmolded. This vital step makes them align perfectly and allows the cabinettes to be made to a set of templates and installed all at once. There is a good set of pic's on escapetrailers.org. I'm sure Reace could explain better than I. Here's a pic of the storage area under the dinette bench. I think it shows one of the awning anchors tho!!!
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Hi: Ken C... OOps wrong pic.
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie p.s. this really is a pic. of a dark space.
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[quote]I just had another escape construction question. The belly seam photo, are screws or rivets used all the way around? and what purpose do they serve? Since the two halves are fiberglassed together, do they simply hold the seam trim or add strength to the whole structure by screwing all the way through the top and bottom half lips? Third, do the penetrate all the way through the shell? Thanks again.

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The details of the band attachment can best be answered by Reace. I have a couple pictures of our 19' that might help illustrate how the top and bottom go together. (fingers crossed that I have actually attached the pictures)
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:34 AM   #32
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Hi: Mike Morrison... It's really hard to show the construction process your pic's do...from a finished trailer. I have never been to the factory to see the build but I know the time and effort Escape takes really shows!!!
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Hi: Mike Morrison... It's really hard to show the construction process your pic's do...from a finished trailer. I have never been to the factory to see the build but I know the time and effort Escape takes really shows!!!
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We are fortunate to live about an hour away from the factory so I was able to do a weekly visit and take construction progress pictures. I missed a few things, but still saw enough to get a pretty good feel for how they go together. Unfortunately the day we picked it up I forgot my camera.
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Hi: Mike Morrison..."I forgot my camera"... I forgot to put film in mine when our youngest daughter was born. DUH!!! I feel your excitement!!! Can you post more pic's anyhoo???
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Hi: Mike Morrison..."I forgot my camera"... I forgot to put film in mine when our youngest daughter was born. DUH!!! I feel your excitement!!! Can you post more pic's anyhoo???
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I haven't had a chance to get "finished" exterior pictures yet. We brought our trailer home at night and promptly put it to bed under a cover. I did take weekly pictures of the construction process (mostly interior as the Escape shop is a bit tight for good exterior shots) but unless you are looking for a specific shot of something that I did capture during the build, I am not sure if any of my pics would be very interesting.
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Hi: Mike Morrison...Did you get a custom cover from Escape???
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Hi: Mike Morrison...Did you get a custom cover from Escape???
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Yes we did. Pretty easy to put on (even for the 1st time), it fits pretty well and undoing a couple of zippers gives you access to the door.
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