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12-22-2017, 06:50 PM
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#141
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Name: Ken
Trailer: None
Florida
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Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
Like everything metric, that's easy to do.
If you use 15 litres / 100 km towing, just divide 100 kilometers by 15 to arrive at 6.666666667 kilometers per litre.
Hope that helps. 
Litres / 100 km makes comparison easier as in, I use 15/100 towing and 10/100 not towing.
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I quickly whip out my handy calculator and Americanized he gets 15.6 MPG towing and 23.5 MPH not towing. But that takes a wee bit longer to do as its not a simple multiply by a fraction.
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12-22-2017, 06:54 PM
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#142
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan
A metric ruler on the other hand, is in units of 10. You simply can't divide it without getting fractions.
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They're called millimetres and centimetres, kilometres, not fractions. 
Regardless, I still give my weight in pounds and height in feet and inches. Grocery stores advertise prime rib etc. in price per pound, but when you go to buy it, it's packaged in kilograms.
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12-22-2017, 06:58 PM
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#143
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Senior Member
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Trillium 4500 - 1976, 1978, 1979, 1300 - 1977, and a 1973
Alberta
Posts: 6,936
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan
That's what they said 50 years ago.
They both have their strengths. For example, our non-metric system allows you to divide sizes and lengths, because they're broken down into halves, quarters, eighths, 16th, 32nds, etc, which is quite handy. A metric ruler on the other hand, is in units of 10. You simply can't divide it without getting fractions.
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Ummm...... isn't a 16th a fraction?
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12-22-2017, 07:08 PM
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#144
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Still, It seems that language is a bigger barrier than measurement, yet who's calling for a one world language?
Isn't conversion more exact and easier than translation?
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12-22-2017, 07:27 PM
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#145
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan
That's what they said 50 years ago.
They both have their strengths. For example, our non-metric system allows you to divide sizes and lengths, because they're broken down into halves, quarters, eighths, 16th, 32nds, etc, which is quite handy. A metric ruler on the other hand, is in units of 10. You simply can't divide it without getting fractions.
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You are far from the reality there, Robert. I have, and still do, deal with both sets of measurement. I have done a lot of surveying in the past, and have used both metric and imperial. Metric wins, hands down. Everything is in meters, and just uses decimals down to the millimeter (0.001m). I have surveyed in fractional inches, and what a pain that is. Even with imperial, for decades now most surveying is done in base ten feet, in that a foot is broken down in tenths, which makes it much easier. ie 10' 4 7/16" is 10.370 feet. I still have a chain that is in imperial tenths, though it has not seen use in near 40 years.
Dividing metric is never a fraction, but expressed in decimal form, no matter what the resultant.
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12-22-2017, 07:31 PM
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#146
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It took a while to get used to measuring fuel economy in litres/100km, but it is real easy now that I use only that, and makes more sense to me too. If you reduce fuel consumption the measure goes down.
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12-22-2017, 07:34 PM
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#147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
Still, It seems that language is a bigger barrier than measurement, yet who's calling for a one world language?
Isn't conversion more exact and easier than translation?
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Language is not a measurement though, Floyd. Kinda apples and oranges there.
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12-22-2017, 07:37 PM
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#148
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Language is not a measurement though, Floyd. Kinda apples and oranges there. 
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I don't know about that. Trump knows "big, big words".
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12-22-2017, 07:59 PM
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#149
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Scamp 16
Michigan
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I remember one of my High School math teachers telling us that one day soon we would all be using the metric system. If the U.S. wanted to compete globally it would have to happen. He made it sound like we probably wouldn't use our current measuring system by college. I can still hear the collective groan by all the students. That was in 1966. Still waiting... I think it was a plot by Snap-on to sell tools.
Tom
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12-22-2017, 08:10 PM
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#150
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Florida
Posts: 1,749
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Scientists and the US military make extensive use of the metric system. While I truly believe that metric makes more sense, I understand resistance to making the switch by anyone who has only used the English system. When you are accustomed to visualizing length in inches and distance in miles because that is all you have ever used, it is difficult to visualize what a centimeter or a kilometer is. Or if you are comfortable at 72° Fahrenheit, the equivalent Celsius temperature, 22°, just doesn’t click in your brain because your brain has always known that at 22° water turns to ice. IMHO, it is a mindset. Most of the younger Canadians I meet cannot mentally visualize English measurements while those of my advanced age who learned the English system before Canada made the switch can, because through everyday use they have become more comfortable with the metric system now in place. Honestly, if US citizens had learned and grown up with the metric system and were being told we would be changing to the English system, the resistance to change would be the same as it is whenever someone suggests the US should go metric.
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12-22-2017, 08:17 PM
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#151
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Language is not a measurement though, Floyd. Kinda apples and oranges there. 
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Thank you, that is exactly the point, clearly delineated in my post!
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12-22-2017, 08:31 PM
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#152
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPW
Canada has not used the imperial gallon since converting to the metric system which I believe was in the 1970s. That means it has been almost 50 years. Imagine that, our northern neighbors are almost a half century ahead of us in accepting what will eventually be the worldwide standard.
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And how many more years before the US decides to get rid of the useless penny as we have in Canada. Can’t tell you how much better it feels to get back to Canada after spending a few weeks in the US and get rid of all the pennies in my pockets.
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12-22-2017, 08:34 PM
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#153
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
I don't know about that. Trump knows "big, big words". 
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Only to those with a "small, small vocabulary".
So for those who are afraid to speak for fear of having their noses tweaked!!....
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12-22-2017, 08:44 PM
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#154
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Now you've gone and dun it Floyd.
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12-22-2017, 09:05 PM
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#155
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikmay
And how many more years before the US decides to get rid of the useless penny as we have in Canada. Can’t tell you how much better it feels to get back to Canada after spending a few weeks in the US and get rid of all the pennies in my pockets.
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Use the penny tray ! 
Doesn't Canada still use the penny for electronic transactions?
The "problem" (if it is one) is almost gone since nobody uses cash anymore!
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As it is, when someone says "a penny for your thoughts"... we already give them our "two cents worth"  How many times are we then informed that those thoughts aren't really worth a nickel?
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12-22-2017, 09:07 PM
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#156
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
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I now get aggravated when I get nickles and dimes in my change.
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12-22-2017, 09:14 PM
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#157
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Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
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Dumping the penny was a great thing. I think at least the nickle should be gone too.
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12-22-2017, 09:15 PM
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#158
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Escape 15A
Minnesota
Posts: 452
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In my work I use milligrams, micrograms, nanograms, etc. Yeah, it's easy... IF you get the decimal in the right place. Otherwise you are screwed.
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12-22-2017, 09:17 PM
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#159
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: Escape 15A
Minnesota
Posts: 452
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We should get rid of pennies, dollar bills, and $10 bills too. And they should issue bills larger than $100, but they won't because of the drug trade.
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12-22-2017, 11:54 PM
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#160
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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In the USA we won't be getting rid of the pennies or nickels and dimes until we get rid of the odd amounts on our sales taxes.
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