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Old 08-19-2018, 09:04 AM   #1
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"Haste makes waste"

I don't know about anybody else, but myself as soon as I hitch up the trailer it's like taking a valium speed wise...


that makes this video I came across sort of puzzling to me...


the semi is going between 65 and 70 miles an hour in the clip....then a guy goes out to pass him (on a two lane road no less) while towing a rather large/long trailer...(spoiler alert: it ends badly!)


I have to wonder if the guy was just in a hurry to get wherever he was going (on vacation ???)....or if he was one of those people who CAN'T STAND being behind a semi....personally I don't mind being behind a semi AT ALL....because I know that if anything bad happens...I can stop faster than that thing in front of me.





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Old 08-19-2018, 09:22 AM   #2
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Did you notice how long it took the semi to stop??? Wow!
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Old 08-19-2018, 09:32 AM   #3
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It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway and the camper had about 300 lbs on the rear end, was already swaying before passing, I'd say poor weight set up was cause, too light tongue
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Old 08-19-2018, 09:46 AM   #4
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Why does the video run 48 seconds before you even see the guy passing? Can't they hurry this up? As in, cut 38 seconds from the beginning? I have other posts to read. <_<
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:01 AM   #5
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Did you notice how long it took the semi to stop??? Wow!
Maybe the semi driver decided to leave room between his rig and the wreck for the first responders to operate.
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:06 AM   #6
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It is not smart to get comfortable behind a semi.
It reduces visibility of the road ahead.
It prevents you from responding to debris in the road.
Trucks lose recaps, brakedrums, cargo, etc... these things become projectiles aimed right at you!
Trucks usually drive faster than you should be towing anyway , so let them go and give other traffic some space.
Your rig will get filthy behind many trucks, from truck exhaust vented fuel and road dirt film.
Most collision bars on trucks are not really effective.
In an emergency stop, the truck often leaves no way around.
There are surely more good reasons, but it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility.
Spend your towing time in the right lane at a speed which minimizes your need to pass and allows traffic to pass you with enough notice to avoid panic.
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:26 AM   #7
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It is not smart to get comfortable behind a semi.
It reduces visibility of the road ahead.
It prevents you from responding to debris in the road.
Trucks lose recaps, brakedrums, cargo, etc... these things become projectiles aimed right at you!
Trucks usually drive faster than you should be towing anyway , so let them go and give other traffic some space.
Your rig will get filthy behind many trucks, from truck exhaust vented fuel and road dirt film.
Most collision bars on trucks are not really effective.
In an emergency stop, the truck often leaves no way around.
There are surely more good reasons, but it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility.
Spend your towing time in the right lane at a speed which minimizes your need to pass and allows traffic to pass you with enough notice to avoid panic.
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Old 08-19-2018, 10:43 AM   #8
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I quite comfortable behind a semi, but I'm several hundred feet behind the truck. Nobody is going to pass me to pull in behind the semi, so that leaves me lots of space all around.
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:31 AM   #9
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good point Glenn....

you follow a semi....and nobody "in a hurry" is going to tailgate you to sort of egg you on to go faster (that's happened to me more than a few times towing a trailer)


maybe it's the time I spent in the business...but I'm still very comfortable following a semi....not many surprises to be had there...pretty relaxing compared to all the alternatives
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:50 AM   #10
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division

"It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway" (?????)


where I live/drive a divided highway has SOMETHING between opposing lanes (barrier)....a painted line on the ground is merely "wishful thinking"
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:08 PM   #11
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...it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility....
And that is the most relaxing way to drive also... if it were only possible.

Around here you might have that luxury, if you only drive between 3 and 5 am.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:13 PM   #12
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"It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway" (?????)


where I live/drive a divided highway has SOMETHING between opposing lanes (barrier)....a painted line on the ground is merely "wishful thinking"
Just in case there is a question, see the first second of the video...
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:15 PM   #13
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SHADOW of passing trailer starts at :28, show ends at 1:11; the rest is empty road and music except for a few cars driving by. In the first second or at :37 you can see the other half of the divided highway. At :37 a (white?) car is clearly going the other direction up above on the other half of typical divided highway that resembles eastern Washington or Oregon...

Very common configuration where there is nothing but land.

The middle is a great video of a horrific event. How fast and simply the whole thing goes bad.

The trailer didn't have to hurry to pass. He had all the time and space he could have wanted. This is a real shame.


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Why does the video run 48 seconds before you even see the guy passing? Can't they hurry this up? As in, cut 38 seconds from the beginning? I have other posts to read. <_<
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SHADOW of passing trailer starts at :28, show ends at 1:11; the rest is empty road and music.

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Am I the only one who appreciated the video of the beautify scenery in the distance?
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... the other half of typical divided highway that resembles eastern Washington or Oregon....
or northeastern California or northern Nevada... parts of US395 look a lot like that.
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John in Santa Cruz, yes, much of America looks like this.

Gordon2, when you've spent as many hundreds of hours driving through that kind of landscape, as we have, yes, we don't really appreciate its "beautify." Been there, seen it; just interested in point A to point B if driving through that landscape any more -- and watching the wreck video.

Sorry to be so jaded.

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The semi was able to slow down when the sway started but the guy pulling the trailer seemed to pull further away from the semi.
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:10 PM   #18
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corrected !!!

never noticed the beginning...showing other two lanes way up high....good eye!
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Old 08-19-2018, 01:36 PM   #19
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Somewhere there was a safety video posted that showed when the tail starts to wagging the dog it’s better to speed up than slow down. Once the camper is up on one end of the axle tho, I think it’s a done deal.
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And that is the most relaxing way to drive also... if it were only possible.

Around here you might have that luxury, if you only drive between 3 and 5 am.
I tow through Nashville, Atlanta, Chicagoland, etc. at rushhour.

I understand your point, sometimes you can't even leave a safe following distance 'cause someone will muscle in on the gap.

Of course literally no one can do the impossible,
still...

traffic is only rarely so heavy on Interstates that you can't position yourself to good forward visibility and a safe following distance while avoiding snuggling up to the nearest semi.
At least with a car in front of you, you can see what traffic is doing in front of it.


Our last trip to Florida, we ended up in Nashville and Atlanta during rushhour with a total of maybe thirty minutes combined of "bumper to bumper" traffic out of 25 hours of driving.
Watch your knuckles, white indicates a need to change strategy.


Its been a few decades, but try and recapture a relaxed sense of adventure!
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