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08-19-2018, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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"Haste makes waste"
I don't know about anybody else, but myself as soon as I hitch up the trailer it's like taking a valium speed wise...
that makes this video I came across sort of puzzling to me...
the semi is going between 65 and 70 miles an hour in the clip....then a guy goes out to pass him (on a two lane road no less) while towing a rather large/long trailer...(spoiler alert: it ends badly!)
I have to wonder if the guy was just in a hurry to get wherever he was going (on vacation ???)....or if he was one of those people who CAN'T STAND being behind a semi....personally I don't mind being behind a semi AT ALL....because I know that if anything bad happens...I can stop faster than that thing in front of me.
Happy motoring!
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08-19-2018, 09:22 AM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: 17 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 490
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Did you notice how long it took the semi to stop??? Wow!
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08-19-2018, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway and the camper had about 300 lbs on the rear end, was already swaying before passing, I'd say poor weight set up was cause, too light tongue
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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08-19-2018, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Why does the video run 48 seconds before you even see the guy passing? Can't they hurry this up? As in, cut 38 seconds from the beginning? I have other posts to read. <_<
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08-19-2018, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack L
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17-Looking for a new one
Washington
Posts: 1,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian m.
Did you notice how long it took the semi to stop??? Wow!
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Maybe the semi driver decided to leave room between his rig and the wreck for the first responders to operate.
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08-19-2018, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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It is not smart to get comfortable behind a semi.
It reduces visibility of the road ahead.
It prevents you from responding to debris in the road.
Trucks lose recaps, brakedrums, cargo, etc... these things become projectiles aimed right at you!
Trucks usually drive faster than you should be towing anyway , so let them go and give other traffic some space.
Your rig will get filthy behind many trucks, from truck exhaust vented fuel and road dirt film.
Most collision bars on trucks are not really effective.
In an emergency stop, the truck often leaves no way around.
There are surely more good reasons, but it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility.
Spend your towing time in the right lane at a speed which minimizes your need to pass and allows traffic to pass you with enough notice to avoid panic.
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08-19-2018, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Reboot 19.4
Smith Valley, Nevada
Posts: 2,919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
It is not smart to get comfortable behind a semi.
It reduces visibility of the road ahead.
It prevents you from responding to debris in the road.
Trucks lose recaps, brakedrums, cargo, etc... these things become projectiles aimed right at you!
Trucks usually drive faster than you should be towing anyway , so let them go and give other traffic some space.
Your rig will get filthy behind many trucks, from truck exhaust vented fuel and road dirt film.
Most collision bars on trucks are not really effective.
In an emergency stop, the truck often leaves no way around.
There are surely more good reasons, but it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility.
Spend your towing time in the right lane at a speed which minimizes your need to pass and allows traffic to pass you with enough notice to avoid panic.
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08-19-2018, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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I quite comfortable behind a semi, but I'm several hundred feet behind the truck. Nobody is going to pass me to pull in behind the semi, so that leaves me lots of space all around.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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08-19-2018, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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good point Glenn....
you follow a semi....and nobody "in a hurry" is going to tailgate you to sort of egg you on to go faster (that's happened to me more than a few times towing a trailer)
maybe it's the time I spent in the business...but I'm still very comfortable following a semi....not many surprises to be had there...pretty relaxing compared to all the alternatives
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08-19-2018, 11:50 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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division
"It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway" (?????)
where I live/drive a divided highway has SOMETHING between opposing lanes (barrier)....a painted line on the ground is merely "wishful thinking"
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08-19-2018, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
...it is best to keep the road open in front of you, give yourself space and visibility....
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And that is the most relaxing way to drive also... if it were only possible.
Around here you might have that luxury, if you only drive between 3 and 5 am.
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08-19-2018, 12:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Franswa
"It is not a 2 lane road but a divided highway" (?????)
where I live/drive a divided highway has SOMETHING between opposing lanes (barrier)....a painted line on the ground is merely "wishful thinking" 
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Just in case there is a question, see the first second of the video...
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08-19-2018, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathleen (Kai: ai as in wait)
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16 1973 "Peanut"
Greater Seattle Metropolitan Area, Washington
Posts: 2,566
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SHADOW of passing trailer starts at :28, show ends at 1:11; the rest is empty road and music except for a few cars driving by. In the first second or at :37 you can see the other half of the divided highway. At :37 a (white?) car is clearly going the other direction up above on the other half of typical divided highway that resembles eastern Washington or Oregon...
Very common configuration where there is nothing but land.
The middle is a great video of a horrific event. How fast and simply the whole thing goes bad.
The trailer didn't have to hurry to pass. He had all the time and space he could have wanted. This is a real shame.
Kai (ai as in strait)
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08-19-2018, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
Why does the video run 48 seconds before you even see the guy passing? Can't they hurry this up? As in, cut 38 seconds from the beginning? I have other posts to read. <_<
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai in Seattle
SHADOW of passing trailer starts at :28, show ends at 1:11; the rest is empty road and music.
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Am I the only one who appreciated the video of the beautify scenery in the distance?
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08-19-2018, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 3,028
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai in Seattle
... the other half of typical divided highway that resembles eastern Washington or Oregon....
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or northeastern California or northern Nevada... parts of US395 look a lot like that.
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08-19-2018, 12:58 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathleen (Kai: ai as in wait)
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16 1973 "Peanut"
Greater Seattle Metropolitan Area, Washington
Posts: 2,566
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John in Santa Cruz, yes, much of America looks like this.
Gordon2, when you've spent as many hundreds of hours driving through that kind of landscape, as we have, yes, we don't really appreciate its "beautify." Been there, seen it; just interested in point A to point B if driving through that landscape any more -- and watching the wreck video.
Sorry to be so jaded.
Kai
ai as in wait
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08-19-2018, 01:08 PM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: 17 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 490
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The semi was able to slow down when the sway started but the guy pulling the trailer seemed to pull further away from the semi.
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08-19-2018, 01:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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corrected !!!
never noticed the beginning...showing other two lanes way up high....good eye!
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08-19-2018, 01:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: sharon
Trailer: Scamp
Virginia
Posts: 201
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Somewhere there was a safety video posted that showed when the tail starts to wagging the dog it’s better to speed up than slow down. Once the camper is up on one end of the axle tho, I think it’s a done deal.
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08-19-2018, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
And that is the most relaxing way to drive also... if it were only possible.
Around here you might have that luxury, if you only drive between 3 and 5 am.
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I tow through Nashville, Atlanta, Chicagoland, etc. at rushhour.
I understand your point, sometimes you can't even leave a safe following distance 'cause someone will muscle in on the gap.
Of course literally no one can do the impossible,
still...
traffic is only rarely so heavy on Interstates that you can't position yourself to good forward visibility and a safe following distance while avoiding snuggling up to the nearest semi.
At least with a car in front of you, you can see what traffic is doing in front of it.
Our last trip to Florida, we ended up in Nashville and Atlanta during rushhour with a total of maybe thirty minutes combined of "bumper to bumper" traffic out of 25 hours of driving.
Watch your knuckles, white indicates a need to change strategy.
Its been a few decades, but try and recapture a relaxed sense of adventure!
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