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Old 04-14-2013, 08:02 AM   #21
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P. Raz: Funny, we were looking seriously at the Chalet A frame. On the Trillium, is that one being built in Florence, AZ right now as we were looking online at their units. We also liked the Norcold frig over the Dometic and we have had a few. I actually scan my RV Buyer's Guide to see who puts in the Norcold units.

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We enjoyed our Chalet. The interior build was very similar to the Escape. The reasons for moving on were the sliding windows, lots of moving parts and anytime you stop to take a break you have to set up.

In regard to the Trillium, same guy, different location. In the first three chapters, the trailers were made by different companies one of which was Escape. I don't know what the current situation is nor if the problems we experienced have been corrected. Raz
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:49 AM   #23
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I agree with the premise that there is no "perfect" trailer and it is a personal decision. Is there a "perfect" anything? There are plenty of factors that enter in to a trailer purchase and it is different for everyone. The fact that the owners of Escape Trailer Industries (Tammy and Reace) have integrity, great customer service, and listen to their customers is big in our book!
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:35 PM   #24
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I disagree...The Escape interior pales in comparison to the Scamp Custom Deluxe interior.
I sort of forgot about the deluxe cabinet option, and yes they do look wonderful. But Scamp's fabric choices are stuck in the '60s IMO. And Escape adds little touches that dress up the interior, it seems to me, that are common in the industry but not utilized by Scamp.
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I once owned a 19ft Escape and we wanted a stove and oven. Reace installed one for us we were the second trailer off the line with that option. Then in June 2011 Tammy told us they had several trailers on the line with ovens. If you want it they will do it for you. You can't beat the 2 year warranty the trailers come with. They stand behind their product. The best customer service anywhere. When Reace comes to Bandon he repairs Escape trailers while on holiday. Would Casita or Scamp or Bigfoot or Parkliner president CEO do that kind of work?
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:12 PM   #26
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It has all been pretty much said, Escape offers a great product, they listen to the customers, and the owners like to party with us. Customer satisfaction is extremely high for good reasons.

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never too late, robin, I have a feeling there will be a bunch of used 19's once the new 21' comes out later this year!!
My thinking is that there will not be many that would upgrade. A few certainly, but not too many. I much prefer the layout in the 19. I guess time will tell though.
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As hard as I try to like it I still do not like the non fiberglass cabinets/ countertops in the Escape. If they had those I think they would be perfect.
If Escape had of done that, they definitely would have lost us as customers.

When looking into the Oliver trailers when I was buying, I found the fiberglass interiors not too my liking at all. My wife agreed too. It did not look at all comfy and cozy, more institutional like. Maybe if they would have been willing to use a warm colour, but they insisted they be white. I guess this is a good reason for different options offered by different manufacturers.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:36 PM   #27
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As hard as I try to like it I still do not like the non fiberglass cabinets/ countertops in the Escape. If they had those I think they would be perfect.
I think because I see lots of old Bigfoots in Canada with the wood cabinets and they just look so dated and veneer is coming off etc.
I have an all wood Scamp. At first I thought it was wonderful. Now I'm tired of all the brown (how many times have I said that over the last several years!). However, if the laminate counter in my Scamp gets damaged, a small piece of laminate will fix it. I've seen alot of damaged all fiberglass counters... cracks, chips, scratches and oops cuts with knives... and the gel coat worn. The first option to fix is paint, the second option is new gelcoat... which few can do well. If one buys new, you can take care of the all fiberglass counters. However when buying used... you get what you get. Different strokes for different folks.
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I have an all wood Scamp. At first I thought it was wonderful. Now I'm tired of all the brown (how many times have I said that over the last several years!). However, if the laminate counter in my Scamp gets damaged, a small piece of laminate will fix it. I've seen alot of damaged all fiberglass counters... cracks, chips, scratches and oops cuts with knives... and the gel coat worn. The first option to fix is paint, the second option is new gelcoat... which few can do well. If one buys new, you can take care of the all fiberglass counters. However when buying used... you get what you get. Different strokes for different folks.
We're still impressed with ours, but we've only had it for nine years.
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Floyd that extra year I have on you for ownership must be the difference. But, I'm considering doing something about it!
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But, I'm considering doing something about it!
Selling it and buying an Escape 5.0?
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Selling it and buying an Escape 5.0?
Gotta see the 21' Escape first Jim. One thing about being broke, I can dream big dreams
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I hear "Escape, Escape, Escape" and I wondering why exactly that is.
Probably because of those who own new trailers, Escape owners are disproportionately represented among high-use participants at this particular forum.


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Probably because of those who own new trailers, Escape owners are disproportionately represented among high-use participants at this particular forum.


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Bingo, you win the prize for the best answer. In addition, due to the newness of Escapes, we haven't had half the issues a lot of the members have had due to age of their units, thus little complaints and a lot of gloats!!!
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Bingo, you win the prize for the best answer. In addition, due to the newness of Escapes, we haven't had half the issues a lot of the members have had due to age of their units, thus little complaints and a lot of gloats!!!
AND, FiberglassRV has existed a lot longer than the EscapeForum. In fact, it was here that Reace first asked "what would you like in an all molded fiberglass towable." Boy did we give him and Tammy an earful . I'd like to believe all of us that were members back "in the day," helped with what is now the Escape line of trailers.
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Gotta see the 21' Escape first Jim. One thing about being broke, I can dream big dreams
Absolutely, and just remember that dreams can come true.
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I also believe it comes from how pleased with the whole experience of buying a new Escape is too. It truly was a fun and enjoyable experience where you truly believe you are getting good value and service, something that does not always happen in purchased of this sort, and gets one set to tooting their horn about it.
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AND, FiberglassRV has existed a lot longer than the EscapeForum. In fact, it was here that Reace first asked "what would you like in an all molded fiberglass towable." Boy did we give him and Tammy an earful . I'd like to believe all of us that were members back "in the day," helped with what is now the Escape line of trailers.
There is no doubt that folks here had a major influence into what went into their trailers. Heck, he even included a model 'B' after changes I requested, and then when that was the way almost everyone wanted to go, dropped the original layout. All it was was swapping the kitchen to the passenger side, where he had the furnace and fridge. Tammy said the 'B' is for Bennett. She knows how to make a guy smile.
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Floyd that extra year I have on you for ownership must be the difference. But, I'm considering doing something about it!
Not likely, not even another 20years! I wouldn't trade for any other trailer, and certainly not for something too large to tow. Our trailer has appointments which compliment the oak interior giving it a warm and comfortable feel like a quality sailboat.
I don't know whether yours is Oak or Birch but you could do the door panels with wallpaper, which might prevent the regrets which are bound to come with paint, since wallpaper could be removed.
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Rest assured Floyd, it won't be "paint." I wonder how a green stain would look My Scamp is Eastern Maple. I've only seen one other Scamp (same vintage) made with the maple. They must have had a sale on the wood in 1987-1988.
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Probably because of those who own new trailers, Escape owners are disproportionately represented among high-use participants at this particular forum.


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That seems to be due to the disproprtionate number of high-use participants on this forum which are from the left coast or north of the 49th parallel. I have been to scores of rallies over the last decade, all over the U.S., and recall having seen exactly one.(it was a 5.0)
They are just not that common east of the Rockies in the U.S.
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??? Escape has been making trailers for 12 years so there are a number of Escapes around that are not all that new. I suspect the high participation is due to the shear number of owners of them. As I mentioned previously they were the second most popular trailer at the big Bandon meet and the way their numbers have jumped each year they may hold number #1 spot in a very short time... who knows... maybe even this July.
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That seems to be due to the disproprtionate number of high-use participants on this forum which are from the left coast or north of the 49th parallel.
Pretty sure there just as many if not more Escape owners south of the 49th than there are north of the 49th, all be it the majority are on the left coast.
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