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09-08-2016, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ellpea
Trailer: 1988 Lil Bigfoot and 2006 Bigfoot 17.5 Gaucho
CA
Posts: 1,412
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If you think you won't be robbed
This individual robbed 10 campers over Labor Day weekend.
Be careful out there!
NPS: Woman swipes $5,000 worth of property from campers
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EllPea in CA
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09-08-2016, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,641
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And just a month ago naysayers said there are no robberies in campgrounds.
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09-08-2016, 10:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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Careful...?
How..?
if somebody is going to steal from you...they will...
How may campers were out on that weekend?
We have nothing to fear but fear itself....
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09-08-2016, 10:22 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Jason
Trailer: BigFoot
British Columbia
Posts: 26
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My wife has been telling me to lock everything up and I never took her seriously. I guess i should listen to her more...
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09-08-2016, 10:39 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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A thief could steal a camera and a laptop and have stolen $5,000 from campers. I find the story lacking a lot of information that would allow one come to a relevant conclusion.
Remember the story a few years ago about a family of campers murdered in the southern US? Turned out the "campers" lived in a single wide on a rural property and that they knew and were involved with the "killers", as in 'domestic dispute'.
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09-09-2016, 06:40 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
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I lost a bicycle at Pismo Beach a couple of years ago. I will take part of the responsibility, since we were not in the habit of locking them up when we were in camp, and I had left this one standing a little further off.
I also fault the campground a little, because when I reported it, the response was, "Oh yeah, there's a pedestrian path near that part of camp that locals use and there have been quite a few stolen." I felt a sign or heads up at check-in wouldn't have been too much to expect, and I suggested as much.
Never hurts to ask when you check in, and we are a little more cautious now. But not paranoid. I'm not going to let worry steal my enjoyment of camping.
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09-09-2016, 08:17 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,641
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Trust JESUS but lock your stuff up.
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09-09-2016, 08:23 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,306
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Quite a sketchy news report.
I am going to always take modest, easy precautions, but refuse to worry about this kind of thing. My mind is at rest knowing karma will take care of scum like this.
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09-09-2016, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
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Be sensible, lock your stuff up and then relax. You actually have a responsibility to protect yourself and your property.
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09-09-2016, 09:29 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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you can steal this....
if you pry it off my cold, cold hand....  ...or break into my locked SUV
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09-09-2016, 10:06 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Franswa
if you pry it off my cold, cold hand....  ...or break into my locked SUV
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A cheater bike, eh?
It does look great. Right now we are sticking with manual bikes as we want and need the exercise, but who knows what the future brings.
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09-09-2016, 05:27 PM
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Member
Name: Duane
Trailer: 1978 Burro
Michigan
Posts: 94
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bicycle thefts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
I lost a bicycle at Pismo Beach a couple of years ago. I will take part of the responsibility, since we were not in the habit of locking them up when we were in camp, and I had left this one standing a little further off.
I also fault the campground a little, because when I reported it, the response was, "Oh yeah, there's a pedestrian path near that part of camp that locals use and there have been quite a few stolen." I felt a sign or heads up at check-in wouldn't have been too much to expect, and I suggested as much.
Never hurts to ask when you check in, and we are a little more cautious now. But not paranoid. I'm not going to let worry steal my enjoyment of camping.
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Bicycles are the No 1 stolen item in my town and the one right next to me. A couple of years ago I called 911 and said there are 3 bicycles in my back yard. They responded we are looking for 2 right now. I don't turn around without having my bike locked up.
I did feel pretty safe in my last RV park in AZ though and did leave my bike unlocked quite a few times. May have to go back to being careful.
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09-09-2016, 05:48 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuaneQ
Bicycles are the No 1 stolen item in my town and the one right next to me. A couple of years ago I called 911 and said there are 3 bicycles in my back yard. They responded we are looking for 2 right now. I don't turn around without having my bike locked up.
I did feel pretty safe in my last RV park in AZ though and did leave my bike unlocked quite a few times. May have to go back to being careful.
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I think this is true in most municipalities. Just look at the giant police bicycle auctions every year, getting rid of unclaimed bikes.
I do lock my bikes during transit, but rarely do in campgrounds. Mind you, I do not bring my good bikes with me. I keep them somewhat out of sight, and if I plan to be away for the day, I will lock them up. I also do lock them sometimes when camped in a more municipal type area, where users other than the campground guests might be around.
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09-10-2016, 06:34 AM
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Junior Member
Name: doug
Trailer: ventura
Ontario
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was it Bugs Bunny on his way to the beach
Bunny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
I lost a bicycle at Pismo Beach a couple of years ago. I will take part of the responsibility, since we were not in the habit of locking them up when we were in camp, and I had left this one standing a little further off.
I also fault the campground a little, because when I reported it, the response was, "Oh yeah, there's a pedestrian path near that part of camp that locals use and there have been quite a few stolen." I felt a sign or heads up at check-in wouldn't have been too much to expect, and I suggested as much.
Never hurts to ask when you check in, and we are a little more cautious now. But not paranoid. I'm not going to let worry steal my enjoyment of camping.
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09-10-2016, 06:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 12,597
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doug coleman
Bunny
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Help me out, Doug... I'm not getting it...
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09-10-2016, 08:37 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 17 ft Eggcamper / Chevy S-10
Posts: 699
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I was relieved to find out that the campers were really burgled and not actually "robbed."
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09-10-2016, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray N
I was relieved to find out that the campers were really burgled and not actually "robbed."
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LOL I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to make a big deal out of the terminology misuse myself. Nor did I wish to point out that she was only a suspect and there was no detail about why. Stating that someone committed a crime before they are convicted not only goes against the presumption of innocence that protects us all, it could even be libelous.
From the dictionary (emphasis added):
Robbery is the crime of taking or attempting to take anything of value by force, threat of force or by putting the victim in fear. At common law, robbery is defined as taking the property of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the person of that property, by means of force or fear.
If my state, robbery is always a felony. It sounds like the campground theft was a misdemeanor (or a few of them) although it could have been felonious burglary also.
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09-10-2016, 11:39 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ellpea
Trailer: 1988 Lil Bigfoot and 2006 Bigfoot 17.5 Gaucho
CA
Posts: 1,412
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Help! Police! I've been thefted!
Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
LOL I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to make a big deal out of the terminology misuse myself. Nor did I wish to point out that she was only a suspect and there was no detail about why. Stating that someone committed a crime before they are convicted not only goes against the presumption of innocence that protects us all, it could even be libelous.
From the dictionary (emphasis added):
Robbery is the crime of taking or attempting to take anything of value by force, threat of force or by putting the victim in fear. At common law, robbery is defined as taking the property of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the person of that property, by means of force or fear.
If my state, robbery is always a felony. It sounds like the campground theft was a misdemeanor (or a few of them) although it could have been felonious burglary also.
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While all of this is true (technicallly), in common vernacular we seldom say, "I've been THEFTED!" Altough, we might say "I've been burgled." If something like this happens, it is typical to say "I've been ROBBED."
---verb (used with object), robbed, robbing.
1.
to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or threat of violence; steal from.
**2.
to deprive (someone) of some right or something legally due:
They robbed her of her inheritance.
**3.
to plunder or rifle (a house, shop, etc.).
4.
to deprive of something unjustly or injuriously:
The team was robbed of a home run hitter when the umpire called it a foul ball. The shock robbed him of his speech.
5.
Mining. to remove ore or coal from (a pillar).---
I haven't followed up on the news story, but my understanding was that this individual had been seen, and then was also connected with the individual on camera *thefting* businesses in town. There was more behind the story; this was just the initial report, and the photo was out in hopes someone could identify her.
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09-10-2016, 01:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2009 Trillium 13 ft ('Homelet') / 2000 Subaru Outback
Posts: 2,222
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Camping robbery
We visited the Monroe State Fair in 2009 and stayed at a friend's house in their driveway. For some reason, I just wanted to go home. When we got home, the security system indicated that the motion detector had gone off, but not the perimeter alarm. We walked through the house and didn't see anything amiss so finished our day and went to bed.
The next morning, I was fixing breakfast and noticed the sound of the kids at the school behind our house was unusually loud, like a window was open or something. Upon looking, I found one of the thermopane windows were smashed (see pictures). We didn't notice the previous day because the blinds covered it.
It turned out that the crook selected the one window whose detector was not working, slid the storm back, and smashed the thermopane. As he (she) was entering the house, the motion detector got him (her).
I tell you, that security system paid for itself that day.
Talking to the neighbors, they said, "Oh, yeah. Your alarm went off at 4am yesterday." But they never thought to call the police.
That alarm hurts your ears in the house.
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09-11-2016, 05:27 AM
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Junior Member
Name: doug
Trailer: ventura
Ontario
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bugs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
Help me out, Doug... I'm not getting it...
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it`s from the old Bugs Bunny cartoon, Bugs & Daffy Duck are tunneling and get lost , Bugs says I must have made the wrong turn at Pismo Beach
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