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Old 01-04-2013, 10:46 PM   #21
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Hush yer festerin' gob, you. (but you might just be right)

So then, you are saying you have a fifth wheel travel trailer.....nice.
Take off, hoser! Actually, I was darn close (60ish miles) to living in the 51st state. The grocery cops let us come and go as we pleased, though.


Fine, fine, fifth wheel travel trailer. I'll just shorten it to fifth wheel.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:48 PM   #22
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For instance, when Jim is cross-country skiing, he is a recreational vehicle. Kitchen and bedroom in the knapsack on his back.
I am a little red engine. "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can".
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #23
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Put another way, what is there about the word "vehicle" that pertains only to vehicles with engines?

A vehicle is any means of carrying something or someone. It is not a definition particular to just vehicles that have engines.



I believe the definition says transporting something or someone...... A travel trailer can't "transport" without a vehicle to do so..... Well I guess it could if there was a really steep down grade.


My travel trailer carry's stuff, but it isn't gonna transport anything until I tow it with my vehicle...........
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:25 AM   #24
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Actually I have heard the term "Vehicle" used to describe ideas and concepts (usually in economics) also.


"I got it, I have a fifth wheel! *phew* All good again."

Not so fast, well okay I guess yours is now a 5th wheel, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna own a "goose neck" travel trailer.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:05 AM   #25
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Recreational Vehicle is the genus.

Travel Trailer and Motorhome are the species.

Usage and understanding vary (some CGs allow 2 vehicles per site - where they mean the car or moho and a towable; sometimes they don't count the trailer as a vehicle and allow a second car, as long as all three "vehicles" fit onto the driveway).
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:25 AM   #26
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I agree, coming from the boating world, fiberglass rules. I looked at a Forest River Rpod Rp-171. I figured oh they sell them locally, no need to worry about leakage because they said aluminum walls, well if you check the link picture near the bottom, the roof is made of 1x2's.... will take a solid fiberglass trailer anyday lolR-POD . . . . from scratch - 'streamin'


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Old 01-05-2013, 10:50 AM   #27
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Actually I have heard the term "Vehicle" used to describe ideas and concepts (usually in economics) also.

Yup...
Words and actions are a vehicle to convey, thoughts, emotions etc........ A paint brush is said to be a vehicle to take paint to canvas.

But I believe a trailer is a trailer,




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Recreational Vehicle is the genus.

Travel Trailer and Motorhome are the species.

That's a great way to look at it!
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #28
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But then how about those '5th wheels'. Since you only have 2 on the trailer attaching to the tug adds it's 4 wheels making it a "6 wheeler".

Someone once told me it's because the trailer has 4 wheels and it's the attachment point that adds the 5th wheel. Hummmm, that attachment point doesn't look like a wheel to me.

So under that premise you folks with single axles are 2 wheeled trailers until you are attached to the tug at which time you'd become a "3 wheeler" .
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:56 AM   #29
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For us UHaul owners, this settles it.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:15 PM   #30
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But then how about those '5th wheels'. Since you only have 2 on the trailer attaching to the tug adds it's 4 wheels making it a "6 wheeler".

Someone once told me it's because the trailer has 4 wheels and it's the attachment point that adds the 5th wheel. Hummmm, that attachment point doesn't look like a wheel to me.

So under that premise you folks with single axles are 2 wheeled trailers until you are attached to the tug at which time you'd become a "3 wheeler" .

Oh god, I think I'm having an identity crises!
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Oh god, I think I'm having an identity crises!
Maybe you and Jared (and all the other 5th wheel owners) need a site of your own where you can dwell in your mistaken identity.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:36 PM   #32
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Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
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Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
Yeah, it is an RV, right?
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:21 PM   #34
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According to Wikipedia RV may also stand for Random Variable ... due to the number of different thoughts on what an RV is or is not here that definition certainly seems to fit
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Maybe we are like two things they put together to get this other thing.
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Tom, is the embossing on that logbook the work of U-Haul? If so, would give historical support to "RV" as an inclusive rather than exclusive pigeonhole. As some of us have been forced to notice, RV as permanently embedded in our esteemed Forum name (FGRV) is quite acceptable and not confusing in the least to the self-propellers who wash up on our shores occasionally LOL.

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Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
Mine is, and one other!
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Tom, is the embossing on that logbook the work of U-Haul? If so, would give historical support to "RV" as an inclusive rather than exclusive pigeonhole. As some of us have been forced to notice, RV as permanently embedded in our esteemed Forum name (FGRV) is quite acceptable and not confusing in the least to the self-propellers who wash up on our shores occasionally LOL.

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Yep, that is the original log book from my UHaul CT. It contained the UHaul user's manual that I posted in the archives. Also my UHaul has an RecVee World blue decal on the side, if that counts for anything.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:47 PM   #39
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I got it, I have a fifth wheel! *phew* All good again.

Jared... not it isn't all good... our Scamp 19' rigs are NOT 5th wheels. They are CLOSER to a goose neck.
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The California DMV (for whatever value THAT brings) includes, under the general category of Vehicles "trailer coach".
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