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Old 07-30-2014, 01:29 PM   #101
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I haven't read all previous posts in this thread closely so forgive me if this ground has already been covered, but I recall four specific extended road trips when we did not have a camper but really wished we had:
1) Planning to spend a night in Omaha, Nebraska, not realizing all the motel rooms within 100 miles had been booked for months for a huge fly-in air show.
2) Planning to spend a night in Rapid City, South Dakota, not realizing all the motel rooms within 150 miles had already been booked for the whole week for the annual Sturgis motorcycle rally.
3) Planning to spend a Saturday night in Reno, Nevada, before going in the back entrance of Yosemite National Park the next morning, not realizing the entire population of Northern California spends their weekends in Reno gambling.
4) Planning to spend a night out in the middle of nowhere Tucumcari, New Mexico, not realizing that ALL of those 10,000 (or whatever now) motel rooms they advertise on mile after mile of highway billboard signs can ALL be full on any random night.
Blame us for poor planning, but after a few trips like those, it sure is nice knowing that a hot meal and a comfortable bed are following right behind you everywhere you go....
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:31 PM   #102
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Mmmm. The wiley hot dog and its big cousin the bratwürst. Sometimes lured out of hiding by diced onions and mustard. Best controlled by wrapping in bread. Watch out for splinters!
That is why it is worth it! The excitement of capturing challenging prey and avoiding the splinters.

Avoiding loss of mustache material when going after the roasted marshmallow is an added dimension to the challenge and excitement.
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:48 PM   #103
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I like the fact that when I stop for the night I'm sleeping in my own nice clean bed.
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:12 PM   #104
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I like the fact that when I stop for the night I'm sleeping in my own nice clean bed.
Hi: bb4029... Or if there are bed bugs... at least they're yours!!!
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:23 PM   #105
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My 2 cents worth. We married in 1965 that's nearly 49 years ago. Camping is our hobby we both love it. Been camping when we could. We both worked. We had one child and she was raised with weekend camping. We kept camper packed and would take off and go for a weekend at the spur of the moment .Those were the best trips. In the early years gas was less than a dollar a gal. Over the years we have been in 49 of the 50 states and within 125 mills of any point except northern part of Alaska. Been to all of the best national parks. Is it worth the price. YOU BET IT IS. We are both retired now .Still camp a lot And still love it. We have a 1984 16ft scamp that we put a lot work in getting it in nearly perfect condition. Over the years have had at least one of every kind of camper made except a fifth wheel. Our favorite was a pickup truck camper. we also enjoyed a camper van. And that's my 2 cents worth Kenneth and Boyce Smith
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:14 PM   #107
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By your figures camping may not be worth it for you. My experience is different.
I paid $5,600. for a new Pop up camper, used it continuously for 16 years, collected $200 for hail damage from Insurance. Sold it for $2,000. So that's $1,600. over 16 years. at about $5.00 per night stay in National Forests, State parks and No cost boon docking sites. Same Car or Tow vehicle owned for 225 thousand miles and used everyday for everything. So figure that.
Now have a small 30 yr old camper worth about $6,000. with a different tow vehicle bought new and owned over 16 years as well, still camp continuously about 14 days a month. My nite stay is still about $5.00 a night. Costs equal about nothing, Worth everything to me...
1. I listen to the sound of the creek lulling me to sleep at night, breath fresh air.
2. Eat healthy in the woods, & have fun
3. Get exercise, hike, walk, or ride a bike, & have fun
4. Relax, no stress, read, & have fun
5. Explore new places, repeat and refresh my memories of favorite places, & have fun
6. Most of all I see beauty, wonder and the power of mother nature in everthing. My passion is photography, which I do on every trip, & have fun
7. Learn many things, about people, families, friends, new friends, plants, animals, geology, rocks and minerals, weather, survival, & having fun
8. Are we having fun yet?
I cannot even equate your figures in my world...Even if I had more money to buy more costly toys
It's worth is invaluable to me.
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:27 PM   #108
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Pickup isnt a factor have owned one since I was 18 and always will
Not having to lug all my stuff up to a room when I am tired priceless
Not having to leave again to eat Priceless
My dogs are welcome Priceless
Sleeping warm in our driveway when the electric went out for two days last winter
Sleeping cool when it went out this summer Have a generator
My wifes health isnt top notch and just walking from pickup to trailer for use of the rest room is way more than priceless
Towing the trailer is the only reason she can travel right now again more than priceless
If I am towing 400 miles a
day it cost me 10 to 11 dollars more in gas
Depending on where I stay it runs from 7 dollars to the high of thirty five dollars per night
Motel 75 to 150 dollars a night
I bought a new Casita SD tax title and license around 19 thousand
If I sold it tomorrow I could get back well over 3/4 of that price
Like that ole Bobby Bare song all the above makes my Casita a Winner
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:05 AM   #109
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Rob,

Thanks for starting this thread. Such a great breadth of responses of people sharing the value that has been added to their lives through camping. Folks finding singularity with the love of their life, and singles finding oneness in nature and the beauty around them.

Best of luck to you and your wife, and may you continue to explore and enjoy this wonderful land, however you may chose to do it. Life itself, is priceless. Don't miss the adventure!

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Old 07-31-2014, 10:19 AM   #110
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Pete.

Life is certainly priceless. We live at the beach and a young surfer noticed the sky was getting heavy and exited the water. Walking up the beach he was truck by lightening and killed instantly. A doctor saw the event and was to the surfer in seconds but nothing could be done. We attended the funeral because that young college student's sister was dating our son. It was the strangest funeral because on like most the vast majority were young people. They had no perspective on death.

As you age it's hard to recognize it's coming. Everyday needs to be prized. I was lucky and unlucky, my Dad died at 46 when I was 24. It told me that life was short and really undefined in length.

I worked hard when I was young (under 55) but when my college roommate died it was an immediate reminder and we hit the road. We have never regretted one moment of it. The other day I wrote about how much we have spent. If I had considered that we would spend nearly 3/4 of a million over 14 years I doubt I would have done it, it would have been too staggering a thought. In retrospect I feel that series of expenditures has us to live longer and healthier, and more time, as you said, is priceless.

Have fun, life is short. It's so simple but missed often.
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:24 AM   #111
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Norm,
Amen! I could not have put it any better!
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Conrad,
Thanks for you input into this thread!!! You must have the fastest thumbs in the world! WHY? Because to post everything you said with an iPhone, is unbelievable! That would taken me 2 weeks to type that much in with an iPhone!
But, you said it well and plain, where everyone can understand!
Thanks,

I use speech to text frequently. I have an iPhone five. And I'm discovering that talking to my phone is much easier than typing.

It is fantastic! I love being able to set alarm by pressing one button and specifying the title of the alarm. If you hold the home button down it'll do a longer piece of text.

I also use it for messaging "texting". It's much faster and all I have to do is correct a little spelling bit here and there.

I think everyone has a spirit of adventure. People like to travel and see new places. But there's also a homestead instinct; people like to have a home. It's hard to break that habit completely. On the other hand as we get older our time starts to draw to an end ; it's easier to pick up roots and move on in bold new ways.




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Old 07-31-2014, 12:15 PM   #113
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Rob, I am totally with you when it comes to the kind of money you speak of.

And I'm with Skogan as well - heck I agree with a lot of what everyone says - We just bought a Ford Escape but had planned on that vehicle anyway with or without a trailer. My little Trillium cost 4000$ and I have not put much into it (not counting elbow grease) and figure I could sell it for what it's cost me.

Once upon a time I put a down payment on a 21 foot, brand new trailer while visiting our local RV show. I woke up in the middle of the night panicked I'd done something so foolish - over 20,000$ before taxes!!!! We retrieved our 500$ deposit the following day - I knew from this experience I am not for big(ger), brand new trailers.

We've had our Trillium out two weekends so far and we really like it - we plan to get out more - maybe not this summer, maybe next - it doesn't matter - it's all paid for and it's ours - and she sits beside our home waiting patiently for when we're ready to hook 'er up.

And that's how I feel
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:21 PM   #114
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Home and Family

We have a very good family on both sides. Ginny's sisters and brother are very similar to her and so easy to be spend time with. My brother also is a great guy with a marvelous family. We are blessed in that sense.

What I have learned is that life is extremely busy for everyone except for us and some other retirees. We have found that when we 'visit' family, when return from long travels, the visit time is a much higher quality, more focused.

When you're always around, you're always around.

As to a homestead, unless it has some long term historical value, I find it more a drain than security or worse a place for stuff, much of which if I were flashing back with today's knowledge, would not purchase.

In a sense, though we still own a home, we no longer repair or replace aging furniture, the flower gardens, once a joy for me are now overgrown. I admit to the pride I had in our flowers, now returning from the road in July it's weed wacker time.

Now I do understand that I am a little crazy and maybe even selfish though Ginny and I have overtime come to the same conclusions. Before we started our travels, Ginny did not recognize the value of this life change. Today we're almost in lockstep.

As usual I understand the choices of others, our choice only one of many that are possible and one of many that would work.
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Lucky is certainly part of it, but we've worked at it over the years too. 40 years of marriage this past June, and still in love. We have a great time. One grandson and another grandchild on the way. Life is good!

And we still like to climb mountains, just in a vehicle...

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Old 07-31-2014, 01:12 PM   #116
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I have not been keeping up with this thread, but after a quick perusal of the posts, I'd say the answer to "Is it really worth it?" is, "It depends on the currency."

For me the answer is, "YES!"
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:47 AM   #117
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Thanks to all for the great discussion on this thread. Had no idea it would raise so much interest when I posed the question. Silly me.

Had a pending family emergency lately which drew me away from the forum. But just this morning I came across this article written back in '09 which pertains directly to the subject at hand and thought you might find it interesting. Below is the link.

60 Square Feet of Wisdom: Carol Venolia's Eco-friendly Trailer Exemplifies Living on Less
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Rob, a good topic and at times we wonder the same thing.

Four years ago as a retirement project/investment we bought a fixer-upper house/property on a great location a couple hundred feet from Lake Ontario. We are just average Canadians (not well to do) and live on a modest retirement income. It has been a lot of work and time but the rewards are there in this project. We have quiet neighbors and a great space to chill.

I confess we have not had the trailer out for a couple years. At times we wonder if putting up with the hassles are worth it. We have all been there. Noisy neighbors with barking dogs. Who needs it??

Anyway, we still have the pristine campsites in mind that we really enjoy and suspect once we get our reno project completed we will head out on the road soon.

I have to say Norm and Ginny has been quite the influence and the talks about their travels keeps the travel/RV spirit fresh in mind.

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Rob, a good topic and at times we wonder the same thing.

I confess we have not had the trailer out for a couple years. At times we wonder if putting up with the hassles are worth it. We have all been there. Noisy neighbors with barking dogs. Who needs it??

I have to say Norm and Ginny has been quite the influence and the talks about their travels keeps the travel/RV spirit fresh in mind.
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Wayne,

I was surprised by your comment but do understand it. Sometimes what we do is not conscious, that goes for our camping style to an extent.

Noisy neighbors and barking dogs are not usually a problem for us. On our Newfoundland trip we were virtually alone in most campgrounds. On the way north we actually were the first person in every campground until we reached Notre Dame Provincial Park where there were a few others.

It helps to travel at the time of the year when others typically are not traveling if you are seeking peace. We barely travel in the summer, we live at the beach so we leave the campgrounds to families.

Another aspect of our travels is to avoid the "popular" places, hence the driving on route 9 across NM or route 90 across TX. These are virtually deserted roads, easy to drive and with much to see. Everywhere has these places 'you' haven't been to but have their wonders. Actually it was on route 90 at Seminole Canyon State Park where a fellow Scamper gave me the 'bumper' box I photographed yesterday in Preparing a 1991 Scamp.

As to noisy neighbors we accept the noise easily if they are people just having fun.

Like all negative situations there are ways to avoid them, go to places where the crowds are low and go when the crowds are home.

Before RVing Ginny and I began exploring all the Maritime provinces. I was in the midst of a start up company, developing prototypes and getting funding, so it was hard to get away. We began by exploring the provinces by taking time off when others did not, turning Thanksgiving and Easter into extended holidays and exploring when people were with their families. Those trips, certainly the 12 days in Newfoundland, are partially responsible for our life on the road.

Wayne, thank you for your comment, I'm always trying to figure out why we do what we do. Stopping to think is always a valuable exercise.
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Thnxs for your words of wisdom Norm. We soon learned that avoiding long weekends at popular Provincial Parks was a good idea. Also our favorite time to go RVing was in September and early October. The colored leaves in Northern Ontario and Upstate New York are sooo nice along with the cool, crisp air of that season.
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