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03-27-2007, 01:01 PM
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Trailer: 1979 13 ft Boler and 1987 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
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Eric said "Looks good!"
He has wanted a Unimog one for years.
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03-27-2007, 03:39 PM
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Trailer: 2003 17 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe
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Current exchange on the euro makes the price of that used Man $328,680. (Plus shipping and handling! )
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03-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Trailer: Scamp
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FYI, LKW is the German abbreviation for Landes-Kraft-Wagen, or truck in English.
I've noticed that a lot of the German trucks, esp those intended for farm or off-road use, manage to get a LOT of ground clearance by raising and turning the differential 'pumpkin', presumably by using the drive axles to turn gearing above the wheels, as well as using larger wheels and differentials.
Here're photos of a Washington-registered Mercedes camper I saw in Alaska a few years ago, on which you can see the ground clearance compared to the nearby vehicles and also see that the pumpkins are **above** the centers of the wheels.
Lots of serious campers running around Alaska because it is a good destination for those vehicles.
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03-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Lex
Trailer: BIOD
Drenyhe
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Quote:
FYI, LKW is the German abbreviation for Landes-Kraft-Wagen, or truck in English.
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Not Landes but [b]Last-Kraft-Wagen ( last = load )
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03-28-2007, 05:34 PM
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Trailer: 1972 MKP Grandesse T (made in Denmark)
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Absolutely! Thanks for sharing Gina.
What a way to see the world!
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03-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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Trailer: 17 ft Casita Liberty Deluxe
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Yep,
Last June parked two sites down from us at Teddy Roosevelt Park in North Dakota...had a kid or two with them at the time. Bet their English is a little better now!
Rand:-)
TR was where we had this buf block the road while scratching an itch on a guard rail!
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03-28-2007, 08:40 PM
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Trailer: 1970 Boler
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nice, here in BC there is some guy running around with a Boler mounted to a flat deck
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03-29-2007, 12:52 AM
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Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
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Quote:
...I've noticed that a lot of the German trucks, esp those intended for farm or off-road use, manage to get a LOT of ground clearance by raising and turning the differential 'pumpkin', presumably by using the drive axles to turn gearing above the wheels, as well as using larger wheels and differentials...
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I think most of those trucks are Unimogs. The "portal" axle design - while not unique to Unimog - certainly is one of their distinctive and effective features. The orignal Unimog was intended for multi-purpose farm use (as both tractor and truck), but most are for special commercial purposes (especially tasks requiring extreme mobility and/or power take-offs) or military applications.
The portal axles have gearing at the hubs both to transfer drive down from axle to wheel centre, and for reduction.
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03-29-2007, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
Here're photos of a Washington-registered Mercedes camper I saw in Alaska a few years ago, on which you can see the ground clearance compared to the nearby vehicles and also see that the pumpkins are **above** the centers of the wheels.
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Indeed, a Unimog.
As a kid in 1960s France, a lovely old Citroen Light 15 swayed across the road towards us, hit the side of our stickie trailer (removing the skin all down one side!) and then collided head on into the French Army Unimog behind us. The engine was punched downwards out of the Citroen by the Unimog which had a ground clearance about 3" less than the hood height of the Citroen. The Unimog suffered some paint scratches!
Miraculously, the entire family of at least six climbed out of the Citroen unharmed. My dad always remembered the reaction of the French policeman who turned up when my dad pointed out that the Citroen driver was so drunk he was having trouble standing: "But of course, he has just had his Sunday lunch"!
Andrew
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03-30-2007, 05:34 PM
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Trailer: Scamp
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Not Landes but [b]Last-Kraft-Wagen ( last = load )
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Lex, after I posted that, I realized I had put in the wrong L-word, but couldn't recall the proper one, even with the help of an old German dictionary -- Thanks for the correction!
As I recall, the automobile is PKW for Personnen-Kraft-Wagen.
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03-30-2007, 11:39 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Lex
Trailer: BIOD
Drenyhe
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As I recall, the automobile is PKW for Personnen-Kraft-Wagen.
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Pete, just 1 n to much: Personen
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04-04-2007, 05:36 PM
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Trailer: Scamp
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Here's a whole set of interior views of an MAN camper disguised as a Garbage Truck
MAN Camper
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04-04-2007, 05:45 PM
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Trailer: Former Burro owner and fan!
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it needs a dust ruffle.
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04-04-2007, 06:06 PM
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Trailer: Scamp
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It's an OFF_ROAD GARBAGE TRUCK and they don't use dust ruffles...Duhh!
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04-04-2007, 06:10 PM
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Trailer: 1979 13 ft Boler and 1987 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
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That's really uptown. Why can't the windows be seen on the outside? Stealth windows that don't need curtains?
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04-04-2007, 07:36 PM
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Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
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Why can't the windows be seen on the outside?
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Because the photos of the outside show the upper shell lowered (closed) for travel,
and the photos of the inside show the upper shell raised (opened) for camping use.
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04-04-2007, 09:14 PM
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Trailer: Burro 17 ft Widebody
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I'm no fan of this pretty fanatical and graceless approach to "camping", but the way this thing is targeted for extreme situations does seem to make some sense if you are stuck in the middle of the Sahara or maybe downtown New York.
Something that struck me positively is the way the kitchenware drawers are arranged. Some designer evidently spent a lot of thought determining the needs for silverware, kitchen utensils, cookware, etc. and then arranged everything into neat, easily accessible receptacles which keeps everything in its place and secured. Of course, the designer had the room to do this which we may not have.
The downside may come if the needs change, or you need to replace that item that fits perfectly and then can't find it. It would be interesting to find out how adaptable some of this stuff is. Maybe a little chaos can be a good thing.
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04-04-2007, 10:22 PM
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Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
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Something that struck me positively is the way the kitchenware drawers are arranged. Some designer evidently spent a lot of thought determining the needs for silverware, kitchen utensils, cookware, etc. and then arranged everything into neat, easily accessible receptacles which keeps everything in its place and [b]secured. Of course, the designer had the room to do this which we may not have.
Maybe a little chaos can be a [b]good thing.
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Only if your chaos is in a separate vehicle ( back in the trailer) where you CAN'T HEAR IT RATTLING AROUND AND MAKING A LOT OF NOISE!
My friend Kathy test drove a motorhome once and swore that she'd NEVER buy one. All of the noise the "stuff" makes as you are driving down the highway completely unnerved her. She hated being confined in the same compartment as the "stuff".
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04-05-2007, 12:00 AM
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Trailer: Former Burro owner and fan!
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Pete.. NO NO NO.
You HAVE to have the dust ruffles to hide the rocket launchers! Everyone knows THAT!
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04-05-2007, 10:38 AM
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Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
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Here's a whole set of interior views of an MAN camper disguised as a Garbage Truck
MAN Camper
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Yep, that's the one we discussed in the other topic, which I linked in a previous post. I still don't think it looks much like a garbage truck.
I like the idea of the fitted interior, to keep stuff from rattling, to make missing items more apparent, and to encourage putting things away. I suspect anyone who can afford a unit like this can afford the fitted supplies...
I found some photos of the Pinzgauer-based camper which I mentioned earlier. Sorry for the image quality... they are from a poor cell phone camera:
For scale, I should mention that this truck is quite small - no larger than a full-size pickup - those are little wheels, not anything like the ones on the MAN. The Pinzgauer is normally a sort of van body, which has been cut off to make a shallow-tray pickup; the camper is carried on that, and connected to the cab.
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