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Old 08-26-2008, 07:52 PM   #1
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Ok.....I now have a picture to go along with the floorplan.

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Old 08-26-2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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I know you want to keep the weight of that bath as far forward as possible, but it would sure make more sense for cooking if the galley were adjacent to the dinette. (Switch the bath and the galley, and move the fridge forward, too, while you're at it?)

There's my 2 cents (or $.0174 US).

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Old 08-26-2008, 08:07 PM   #3
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Looks good Reace.

Have you thought about swapping the sink/stove counter with the bath to have it closer to the table, which we often use as additional counter space for prep work, and it would be handier for serving.

I do believe whatever the final design should be, you will have a winner. You are incorporating pretty much all the items my wife and I are looking for.
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I know you want to keep the weight of that bath as far forward as possible, but it would sure make more sense for cooking if the galley were adjacent to the dinette. (Switch the bath and the galley, and move the fridge forward, too, while you're at it?)

There's my 2 cents (or $.0174 US).
Too funny, you posted the same thing I did, while I was typing mine.
(Though I think I like the fridge where it is better, it would kind of help wall off the bed for privacy should one person be up with lights on and such.
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Ok.....I now have a picture to go along with the floorplan.

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Reace,

Is it really gonna have two Max fans or is that AC I see on the roof?
My buddy Keath and I went fishing about a week ago and took Toad to the Skagit. He loved the Escape 17, but being taller than I am would like more head room. He also needed a bit more room on the bunk. Now he gets both.

And he gets to brag that his is bigger than mine.

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Too funny, you posted the same thing I did, while I was typing mine.
(Though I think I like the fridge where it is better, it would kind of help wall off the bed for privacy should one person be up with lights on and such.
Well, I have an idea that the bath is where it is on both floor plans, because of the wheel wells. I just can't see cooking next to the bed, with the dinette at the front... but I agree with having the bed at the back, for all the reasons stated... It's a conundrum.
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I know you want to keep the weight of that bath as far forward as possible, but it would sure make more sense for cooking if the galley were adjacent to the dinette. (Switch the bath and the galley, and move the fridge forward, too, while you're at it?)

There's my 2 cents (or $.0174 US).
If you swap the dinette and the bed, wouldn't you achieve the same thing? If the view is an issue, it's dark when you go to bed, so that's at the front, and you enjoy the setting sun while having dinner at the back.
Of course, you have to consider weight and cabinets as structural components, so perhaps it's not practical.

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.. It's a conundrum.
It sure is, you will likely never get everything you would like in a 19' trailer. For fun this past while, I had considered buying on older 19' Bigfoot, and completely gutting it if necessary to get what I really wanted in a trailer. I don't envy Reace and team, I tried dozens of layouts, and it seemed something was always compromised. It comes down to what things you would most be willing to compromise, and what this new Escape is shaping up to be is about as close as I could ever hope for.
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If you swap the dinette and the bed, wouldn't you achieve the same thing? If the view is an issue, it's dark when you go to bed, so that's at the front, and you enjoy the setting sun while having dinner at the back.
Of course, you have to consider weight and cabinets as structural components, so perhaps it's not practical.

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Did you miss Reace's initial announcement, Glenn? He started out with a floorplan with the bed up front, dinette on the side... And then, of course, the 5.0 has the dinette in the rear... New 19' Escape Trailer Coming Soon
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:39 PM   #10
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Very cool Reace! There's always going to be a compromise to fit everything everyone wants into a finite space. The one thing I like more than anything isn't the location of the toilet or the size of the frig, it's the fact that you are willing to listen to potential customers and deliver something to the marketplace that isn't there yet. Kudos.
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Did you miss Reace's initial announcement, Glenn? He started out with a floorplan with the bed up front, dinette on the side... And then, of course, the 5.0 has the dinette in the rear... New 19' Escape Trailer Coming Soon
No, I didn't miss it, but I've seen so many floor plans since that my brain is scrambled. Trying to please each and their peculiar ( sorry, particular ) desires could drive one crazy. Maybe Reace could design a round trailer with a turntable inside.

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I agree with having the kitchen next to the dinette.....but as you picked up on.....wheel wells don't work so well in the the bathroom! Compromises...

Round trailer with turntable..........hmmmmm. You first!

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No, I didn't miss it, but I've seen so many floor plans since that my brain is scrambled. Trying to please each and their peculiar ( sorry, particular ) desires could drive one crazy. Maybe Reace could design a round trailer with a turntable inside.

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I had a feeling I was asking for grief by posting my suggestion, but I got to thinking about what it would be like to actually be trying to get a meal prepped... Many people don't cook in their trailers, but I do. And in my Liberty Casita, I use a board on the bench that's next to the sink, to make up for lack of workspace. I supposed that could also be done in a 19' Escape with the floorplan as Reace shows at the top of this topic (put a board on the bed). But then I thought, you shouldn't need to do that when there's a dinette set up all the time. I suppose that might seem peculiar to some... and Reace is brave to ask for input... But he did ask!
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I agree with having the kitchen next to the dinette.....but as you picked up on.....wheel wells don't work so well in the the bathroom! Compromises...

Round trailer with turntable..........hmmmmm. You first!

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Yeah, that's why I said it was a conundrum. Trailers are like boats - each one is a set of compromises. As many have said already, thanks for asking for the feedback.

And don't mind me; I am so unlikely to ever buy another trailer... Our Casita is really about as much as we can manage. (It's fun to dream, though.)




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Old 08-26-2008, 10:06 PM   #15
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:10 PM   #16
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• 13' Fiesta Awning
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• 5.0 Cubic ft. 2-way Dometic Fridge
• 2 Roof Vents (rear is a crank open vent, front is the new Maxx Fan)
• Roof Mount A/C ready
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• 12 Volt Demand Water System
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Hi Reace,

Y' know I'm not sure you can win the floorplan game. I kinda like the dinette in the back of my 5er. I get to look out the nice windows at breakfast . . .

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I agree Peter.....I know I was not going to come up with a magical floorplan that was going to work for everyone (still going to try) but it is the feedback that helps steer us in the right direction! It didn't take long to see the desire for the large front and rear windows and larger dinette.

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Reace,

I especially like the plan to put in a large bathroom. THE BIGGER THE BETTER.

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For those who are concerned about counter space in the galley, I wonder if one could add a swing out additional counter that swings on a pin at the corner of the sink/bed. This would be similar to the table arrangement in the pictures of the Geographic trailer in the albums. There would need to be a cut out to fit around the sink below the existing countertop but should fit under the stove top. Cantilevered on this pin, the weight it could take would depend on the material of the swing out and the strength of the pin. It could have a supporting leg, and could create a L shaped counter. Being a little taller, an extra inch or two of counter height would be welcomed by me but it might fit in with existing height.
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