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Old 12-24-2013, 05:47 PM   #81
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What is the Nydacore photo posted on their facebook. Does that go into the wall or floor? Thanks.
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Old 12-24-2013, 09:54 PM   #82
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The basic rule for towing is to subtract 20% from the maximum vehicle towing weight. That is the safe weight that you can tow and control. Of course, this is just a suggestion. If you are thinking about buying a trailer, you would be wise to use this rule. A lot of people ignore this rule when towing because they have never had a bad experience and want to have the biggest trailer that they can physically tow.
Who wrote this rule?
If it were appropriate, would it not obviate the figure from which you subtract?

What then happened to the 40% rule for trailer brakes which makes facetious assumptions about TV brake engineering, which are then used to write laws in some states.

Your "basic rule" clearly advises distrust of the manufacturer's rating, which is supposedly seen as authoritative.
Your comment then brings into question the judgement of those who would not follow a "basic rule" from an anonymous (or at least amorphous) source, which in turn is based on the assumption of bad manufacturer data. These are the very things which are supposed to preclude common sense and good judgement in favor of authoritative figures.

Now, if all manufacturers are assumed to be consistently wrong on the high side by 20%, what error factor should we then assign to the author of the rule?
Of course our own common sense and judgement having been already called into question, we are left with a choice...
Face danger or stay home!
Of course that presumes home is a safe place to stay?

Lord willing...I'll see you in Sebring!
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:50 PM   #83
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Good grief....fahgeddabout arguing ounces here and there!

Here's the "trailer rule of thumb":

Gross Carrying Capacity (usually expressed as axle(s) size) is all that matters....therefore:

ALWAYS assume that every last ounce of capacity built into the trailer will be consumed, whether by water, food, clothes, souvenirs, or The Dead Bodies of Relatives You Forgot Were In There.

Whatever the stated capacity of the Oliver is- that's what one should be able to tow....and the same is true of every other trailer on the market from the biggest fiver to the smallest popup.

Case closed!
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:03 AM   #84
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What is the Nydacore photo posted on their facebook. Does that go into the wall or floor? Thanks.
The Nida-Core that Oliver uses is placed in areas that can benefit from extra rigidity. The largest piece is bonded to and glassed into the ceiling the entire length of the trailer. This is what give the Oliver its unsurpassed strength in the roof. Two adults can easily walk around on it. There is a picture on The Oliver FB page that show the opening in the roof ready to receive the AC. You can see the way the Nida-Core is used in that area. There are other smaller pieces used in other locations.

Due to the double hull construction and the bracing between the two shells in the floor Nida-Core is not needed there. The floor is all fiberglass and is rock solid. The lower area between the shells contains all the plumbing, much of the electrical, ducts for the heating system, personal storage areas and the holding tanks for fresh and waste water. This area is heated when the basement furnace is running to reduce freezing potential. There are no drains or any plumbing outside the shell exposed to the elements.
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