Parkliner base price increase. Wow!

[Raz]

The new management did give warning that a price increase was coming. I figured a few hundred, maybe a thousand. The base price has jumped from $16900 to $19900. All I can say is WOW! Raz

[neparker]

Anything different in the base features?

[Darral T.]

You know how to take care of that?? Back to Scamp/Casita and show them that price does NOT have to be paid with the competition out there- especially for a 15'er! I'd go Escape with a preference ratio 10 to 1 over a Parkliner ANY day if I was paying that kind of money! I've never been that impressed with them from the beginning.

[WaltP]

I talked with Tom in early June. He said he wanted a $5k price boost but the new owner settled on $3k.
With all the improvements since my 2012 I was considering one, but decided the combined black and grey holding tank was still a deal breaker.

Walt

[Darral T.]

Combined black/grey tank???? Boy that's a first for me!

Originally Posted by WaltP

I talked with Tom in early June. He said he wanted a $5k price boost but the new owner settled on $3k.
With all the improvements since my 2012 I was considering one, but decided the combined black and grey holding tank was still a deal breaker.

Walt

[Wayne Collins]

Yes, it took me a while to realize the Parkliner - one of which we have on order - has only one tank for both. But, that is with the optional flush toilet ; which is actually a marine macerator type. It grinds up the lumps and paper and sends it with water to the holding tank. Makes dumping easier.
I think the standard "porta-potty" has a black tank you have to dump separately.

As to the price increase ... we lucked out. were alerted to it coming July 1st ... but if we got our order in before, would get the old price.
Tom's explanation was that the owner insisted on top quality materials and appliances so they were not profitable at the old price.
I guess the old saying that "you get what you pay for" applies here.

[Raz]

Originally Posted by Darral T.

You know how to take care of that?? Back to Scamp/Casita and show them that price does NOT have to be paid with the competition out there- especially for a 15'er! I'd go Escape with a preference ratio 10 to 1 over a Parkliner ANY day if I was paying that kind of money! I've never been that impressed with them from the beginning.

Actually I like the size. I also like the windows and the Queen bed. But for 20k you can get a Casita 17, and with the current exchange rate you are close to a Escape 17 B. I suspect a Scamp 16 deluxe has to be there as well. It will be interesting to see if they sell. Raz

[Jim Bennett]

I would much rather pay the increase for a better product and service, than the original price with all the troubles that were formerly attached.

While it is true that you can get an Escape 17B for nearly the same price before options, I still think the PL will sell fairly well.

[Carol H]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I would much rather pay the increase for a better product and service, than the original price with all the troubles that were formerly attached.

The above answers very nicely the question "Anything different in the base features?"

[Jack L]

If the value is there, Parkliner will sell trailers. Oliver and Bigfoot are selling trailers, and they come with a hefty price. The new small molded fiberglass Airstream is rumored to be over 50K.

[WaltP]

The Parkliner is a great trailer for anyone who doesn't mind the combined holding tank. If not for that I would have ordered one myself. I hope they do well.

Walt

[Mike Magee]

Snoozy's price is up there already, too. So PL is comparable to several mfrs.

[Raz]

As the Escape price includes a cook top, fridge (bigger), awning, water heater, and furnace,. Right now it's cheaper. With those items the Parkliner is up to about $23k.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by Raz

As the Escape price includes a cook top, fridge (bigger), awning, water heater, and furnace,. Right now it's cheaper. With those items the Parkliner is up to about $23k.

I had assumed those were standard items. Especially a furnace.

[Raz]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I had assumed those were standard items. Especially a furnace.

No and the fridge is a 1.9 ft^3. When Escape increased their price they sweetened the deal a little the way the car companies did by making what used to be optional, standard. Increase the profits while giving the customer something.

[Bill Berry]

One thing to consider regarding the ParkLiner price increase is that there had been no price change since the 2012 introduction of the ParkLiner. My feeling is that the Parkliner was priced too low to begin with. Further built-in optional accessories were also priced with too low a margin to be sustainable in the long run. In my opinion, a great many of the problems experienced by ParkLiner's original management (and customers) were, at least in part, due to pricing that was too low to support the staff required to provide quality customer service. To me, the current price increase is not excessive and should help the firm recoup past losses and provide the resources necessary for survival.

Of course, you should take my opinions with a grain of salt since we took delivery of our ParkLiner in March, 2013 and paid the original price.

[Roadie1]

Originally Posted by Bill Berry

One thing to consider regarding the ParkLiner price increase is that there had been no price change since the 2012 introduction of the ParkLiner. My feeling is that the Pantyliner was priced too low to begin with. Further built-in optional accessories were also priced with too low a margin to be sustainable in the long run. In my opinion, a great many of the problems experienced by ParkLiner's original management (and customers) were, at least in part, due to pricing that was too low to support the staff required to provide quality customer service. To me, the current price increase is not excessive and should help the firm recoup past losses and provide the resources necessary for survival.

Of course, you should take my opinions with a grain of salt since we took delivery of our ParkLiner in March, 2013 and paid the original price.

Hey Bill.....ehh you might want to edit your post.....just sayin....))

[Mary F]

Originally Posted by Roadie1

Hey Bill.....ehh you might want to edit your post.....just sayin....))

I fixed it. Silly auto "correct"!

[Bill Berry]

Thanks Tab & Mary. I guess it takes a second (and third) set of eyes to master the technology.

[floyd]

Originally Posted by Raz

No and the fridge is a 1.9 ft^3. When Escape increased their price they sweetened the deal a little the way the car companies did by making what used to be optional, standard. Increase the profits while giving the customer something.

True, so now I can't buy a new car since it is so chock full of crap I don't want and its all "FREE" (for only twice the money).