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Old 05-17-2021, 02:09 PM   #1
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Propane tank problem

I have a 2 year old 20 lb propane tank that was filled last fall. I connected it up to my trailer to check the fridge. Worked fine so I shut the tank off. Later, I wanted to test the stove. Turned the tank on and nothing. I did the OPD reset twice. Nothing. I swapped the tank from my grill. It works fine on the trailer but the trailer tank won't work on the grill. And yes, the tank is full per the scale on my Weber. Any suggestions?
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:30 PM   #2
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I guess by the OPD test you said means that you turned the tank off then when hooked up you turned the tank on very slow... that is only suggestion I can give. if still not working in maybe a bad valve on tank.
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I think I read somewhere recently that the valve can stick occasionally and can be unstuck by dropping it a short distance onto a hard surface.
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never heard this and be interested to know if it works as I have several tanks in campground that do not open.
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never heard this and be interested to know if it works as I have several tanks in campground that do not open.
I think (and hope) that Glenn was joking. Don't drop your propane tanks.
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Thanks ...I knew that.
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I think (and hope) that Glenn was joking. Don't drop your propane tanks.

Nope wasn't a joke. I read it recently on a forum ( for what thats worth ).
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Nope wasn't a joke. I read it recently on a forum ( for what thats worth ).
Here's the thread:
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Forums are great.. you can learn so much. I recently read some really interesting stuff about a stolen election.. And if its on the Internet then you know is true.

In reading the thread you linked to.. it seems that the problem seemed to that the tank's owner's didn't have the strength to turn the stuck valve handle. Jon made the suggestion to swap the tank at a tank exchange (implying that you take the < US$ 20 loss for the propane). I thought the same thing. The tank exchange company will check the tank, repair and certify as needed, and resell it. It seems to be the simplest solution. The other option is to take it to a propane tank supplier. But subjecting a high pressure cylinder to uncontrolled impacts is last on my list of good ideas (except maybe for heating the valve with a torch to loosen it).
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I think (and hope) that Glenn was joking. Don't drop your propane tanks.
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Thanks ...I knew that.
No, he wasn’t joking. Holding the tank upright, drop it about 1 foot on a solid surface. It frequently works. Swapping it out is the last resort, unless you don’t mind losing whatever you paid for the propane. You are not dropping it off of a 10 story building.
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If propane tanks were that fragile, there would be RVs blowing up on every washboard road and at every pothole. They would be covered in stickers; "FRAGILE", "DO NOT DROP", "NOT FOR INTERNAL COMBUSTION".
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OK seems people like to drop the tanks on concrete.. but I stand by my statement.. its not the best option and I would rather take the <$20 loss and exchange the tank, or get it repaired.
But lets ask Blue Rhino, perhaps the largest supplier of propane tanks for RV use:
My handwheel won't turn on. What can I do?

The first thing to do is to make sure you are turning it clockwise. The next step is to determine if it is already open. Sometimes, with a new OPD, there is a shallow rise from OPEN to CLOSED. It might look closed but may have been shipped open. Since gas won't come out unless a tank with an OPD is hooked to an appliance, it won't leak. And IF the tank is hooked up to a grill that was turned to the ON position, it may have "shut down" when it was hooked up just like what happens in the improper grill lighting procedure. In this case the gas suddenly is released to go forward and the valve detects that it is going too fast so if shuts itself down. The remedy: shut everything off, wait one minute, open the tank valve, turn the grill to the LIGHT position, attempt to light.

If the valve is still stuck, a small bit of oil applied to the stem will help loosen it up.

Do NOT use a wrench since too much torque may result in the valve coming apart.


For further assistance, please call our Customer Care Center at 1.800.BLU.RINO.


(They did not mention dropping the tank)
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I do not know the internal design of the tanks or valves but I can tell you that I recently had a tank that would open normally but not let the gas go into the hose. I had heard of the drop the tank method and tried it on turfgrass a couple times. No joy. So I got my rubber hammer, turned the tank upside down on a picnic table seat, thumped the bottom about 10 times, not crazy hard. Then I hooked it back up and opened the valve. First I just barely cracked the valve and saw the line move ever so slightly when it pressurized, then I opened it all the way verrrey slowly. Joy! So that’s my experience. I have considerable respect for compressed gasses in a cylinder but I also know they can take a fair amount of jostling. When I run onto a problem with a propane tank or I get close to the tank code date, I take it to a large propane dealer and find “the guy on the dock” and he can usually help me or he replaces the tank. A couple years ago I took a tank ready to expire into the Amerigas dealer. He gave me a new tank at just the charge for the gas so no cost to me. Easy does it.
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... First I just barely cracked the valve and saw the line move ever so slightly when it pressurized, then I opened it all the way verrrey slowly. Joy!..
I would bet that banging on the tank had no effect and the part of your post I quoted above was the solution.
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Problem solved


These tanks are designed to fall off trucks so dropping it was not a concern. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Also I could hear the float inside the tank, so I figured my OPD valve was not the problem. If you look inside the valve connection there is an O ring. Inside the O ring is a cup. With the gas valve off, I pushed the edge of the cup with a screw driver and a small amount of propane came out. When you connect to the appliance, that cup gets pushed in. This insures that no propane can flow without a connection should you accidentally turn the valve. Mine must have been stuck. Works fine now. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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Hi: Raz... Glad you only had a stuck whatsit!!!
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I do not know the internal design of the tanks or valves but I can tell you that I recently had a tank that would open normally but not let the gas go into the hose. I had heard of the drop the tank method and tried it on turfgrass a couple times. No joy. So I got my rubber hammer, turned the tank upside down on a picnic table seat, thumped the bottom about 10 times, not crazy hard. Then I hooked it back up and opened the valve. First I just barely cracked the valve and saw the line move ever so slightly when it pressurized, then I opened it all the way verrrey slowly. Joy! So that’s my experience. I have considerable respect for compressed gasses in a cylinder but I also know they can take a fair amount of jostling. When I run onto a problem with a propane tank or I get close to the tank code date, I take it to a large propane dealer and find “the guy on the dock” and he can usually help me or he replaces the tank. A couple years ago I took a tank ready to expire into the Amerigas dealer. He gave me a new tank at just the charge for the gas so no cost to me. Easy does it.
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Hi: Iowa Dave... Aah... The old hammer trick. Worked for a stuck TV camera on the moon too!!!
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When I have a problem I usually try about three or four things together and when it woks, I don’t know what I did but I am happy to succeed. I had one of those gaskets stick a few years ago. Back to the “man in the dock” who switched me out with a full tank. He said “I can recover the propane so no charge.” Just don’t forget where we are. I’ve dealt with them for over 40 years. They are six blocks from where I grew up on Young’s Hill and attended Stinkin Lincoln Elementary School.
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I think (and hope) that Glenn was joking. Don't drop your propane tanks.
A dropped tank from a foot or so will not cause it to blow up. Propane tanks are very sturdy. In fact after reading this entire column I found it interesting that on I-25 between Denver and Colorado Springs a semi carrying a bunch of propane tanks rolled on its side spilling the tanks all over. None spewed or exploded. This happened Tuesday May 18. Check it out if you want on KKTV Channel 11 news in Colorado Springs. Another driver caused the wreck and to prevent from hitting the other car the semi driver went into the ditch. I've also seen trailers wreck and roll over and not have a problem with a tank at all.
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These tanks are designed to fall off trucks so dropping it was not a concern. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Also I could hear the float inside the tank, so I figured my OPD valve was not the problem. If you look inside the valve connection there is an O ring. Inside the O ring is a cup. With the gas valve off, I pushed the edge of the cup with a screw driver and a small amount of propane came out. When you connect to the appliance, that cup gets pushed in. This insures that no propane can flow without a connection should you accidentally turn the valve. Mine must have been stuck. Works fine now. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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Forums are great.. you can learn so much. I recently read some really interesting stuff about a stolen election.. And if its on the Internet then you know is true.

In reading the thread you linked to.. it seems that the problem seemed to that the tank's owner's didn't have the strength to turn the stuck valve handle. Jon made the suggestion to swap the tank at a tank exchange (implying that you take the < US$ 20 loss for the propane). I thought the same thing. The tank exchange company will check the tank, repair and certify as needed, and resell it. It seems to be the simplest solution. The other option is to take it to a propane tank supplier. But subjecting a high pressure cylinder to uncontrolled impacts is last on my list of good ideas (except maybe for heating the valve with a torch to loosen it).
Heating the valve with a torch was a joke right???????
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