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Old 08-13-2014, 01:25 PM   #21
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When I started thinking about it two, three years ago, I quickly concluded that fiberglass shell is it. I saw the neighbor spreading buckets of goo on the roof of his RV, and I knew immediately what I do NOT want.
The point I would like to make is that the FG roof does not do much for you if it is a windy, rainy day or, if you have to travel in rain. With head wind, your air speed could be 80 miles per hour or more! We have done it

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Old 08-13-2014, 02:06 PM   #22
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Claustrophobia is a disorder characterized by an irrational fear of enclosed spaces.
The best therapy for a case of ersatz claustrophobia is the purchase and use of a small fiberglass travel trailer! After a few nights the "fear" melts away and becomes a sense of snug security!
Caution... After a year or so of owning your small fiberglass trailer, you may start to develop a sense of agoraphobia upon entry into a large stickbuilt, which only adds to the queasy feeling when buying fuel!
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Regular RV Pros are cost (initial), features, availability, and layout. I can go out any day of the week and find a brand new stickie that meets my camping needs and style and they will be glad to finance it on terms my budget can afford. If it is not at my local dealer somebody near by will have one or they will be quick to get one here. I would have to order a new FGRV, wait months, pay more (perhaps a lot more), go to the factory and get it or pay somebody to bring it to me (from maybe wwwaaaayyyy off), and live with a limited number of layouts. Used is a different story, I am not really interested in a used stickie now that I know all the construction advantages of a FGRV.
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:57 PM   #24
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Oh I love all the above answers. My two cents have been said before much more eloquently.
1. Less Weight 2. Better gas mileage 3. Future value 4. Better built
I live outside also, don't need a bigger camper, don't want TV's, Stereos, microwaves, fireplaces etc.
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:43 PM   #25
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Not mentioned is that the trailer in question has corrugated siding which means hundreds of little places to leak at the front and back ends of the side panels. It got so I refused to even attempt and wall repairs on RV's with that construction as in fond on many Dolphins



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Old 08-13-2014, 06:45 PM   #26
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Isn't it grand how very much alike we all seem to be... but at the same time very different?

I'm approaching "retirement" age, whatever that may be. What I desired and wanted 10-15 years ago is different than today. I'm looking at an ever narrowing tunnel.

I'm just waiting for a roll-up 60" television so I can carry it into Ten Forward, unroll it on the lounge, crawl up in the loft... and watch the Super Bowl while I'm eating popcorn that I've cooked in my microwave! All the while, it's 37 degrees outside and the rain is coming down sideways. Yep, that's what I want. Oh, and give me a built in vacuum cleaner too please.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:29 PM   #27
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Isn't it grand how very much alike we all seem to be... but at the same time very different?

I'm approaching "retirement" age, whatever that may be. What I desired and wanted 10-15 years ago is different than today. I'm looking at an ever narrowing tunnel.

I'm just waiting for a roll-up 60" television so I can carry it into Ten Forward, unroll it on the lounge, crawl up in the loft... and watch the Super Bowl while I'm eating popcorn that I've cooked in my microwave! All the while, it's 37 degrees outside and the rain is coming down sideways. Yep, that's what I want. Oh, and give me a built in vacuum cleaner too please.
It's nice that everything you want is reachable.
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:52 PM   #28
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So true Steve

IK123.... The other day my gal says to me she misses the out door feel of camping that we had with the Coleman pop up. She did a Kijiji search and came up with this idea.

OMG, a sticky hybrid.

What the heck was she thinking?? Wally Byam I'm sure rolled over in his grave (as we have an Airstream).

To appease her we went to the local RV dealer just 2 hours ago and checked out this 08 18' Cub. I have to admit. The space inside was nice....... actually it was very nice, considering it was 6' shorter than our current trailer.

Anyway the thought of towing a big white box with leaf springs put a chill up my back. Stay tuned, who knows what the future may bring when the will of a women prevails. LOL
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It's nice that everything you want is reachable.
YEPPERS! And no slide-outs or stickie seams to deal with. It's NIRVANA
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:07 PM   #30
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Our first 7 years we traveled in an RV that contained 100 gallons of water and 100 gallons of waste tanks, a huge fridge, real furniture, a home sized shower, a walk around queen bed. Our Scamp has about the volume of the motor home's bedroom. We traveled far, 100,000 miles, and comfortably in our Bounder. We had a really good time. Yes it leaked, and it's roof required maintenance

The amazing part is we're no less happy in our Scamp. It hasn't been the rig but rather the adventure.
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So true Steve

IK123.... The other day my gal says to me she misses the out door feel of camping that we had with the Coleman pop up. She did a Kijiji search and came up with this idea.

OMG, a ... hybrid.
BUT, you know there WAS an all molded towable hybrid.. right? The Northern Lite. The front end bumbed out into a tent. And you could use it or NOT. The rear dinette changed back to a bed... if needed.

Isn't it cool?
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BUT, you know there WAS an all molded towable hybrid.. right? The Northern Lite. The front end bumbed out into a tent.
Hummmmm, that is interesting news Donna. Will look into the NL. I have to admit though, they are not common trailers around here.
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And they're few and far between. But at least if you see a Northern Lite for sale on Craiglist or... you know you should check it out, if that's the build you desire.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:34 PM   #34
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So true Steve

IK123.... The other day my gal says to me she misses the out door feel of camping that we had with the Coleman pop up. She did a Kijiji search and came up with this idea.

OMG, a sticky hybrid.

What the heck was she thinking?? Wally Byam I'm sure rolled over in his grave (as we have an Airstream).

To appease her we went to the local RV dealer just 2 hours ago and checked out this 08 18' Cub. I have to admit. The space inside was nice....... actually it was very nice, considering it was 6' shorter than our current trailer.

Anyway the thought of towing a big white box with leaf springs put a chill up my back. Stay tuned, who knows what the future may bring when the will of a women prevails. LOL
I honestly think she would be disappointed with the hybrid. That one tent end is not really the same as having tent screen all the way around you. The only time it would feel similar to your prior popup would be when in the popped-out bed... and then it's probably dark and you can't see anything, but I guess you can hear the canvas flapping if that's what she misses.

Maybe you will have to buy an older used popup on the cheap just to have around for an occasional trip, so she can work it out of her system.

Or better yet, buy a tent like this Coleman Instant Cabin Tent, 6 Person: Outdoor Sports : Walmart.com and a good camp cot or two, like this Coleman - Coleman- ComfortSmartā„¢ Deluxe Cot - ComfortSmartā„¢ Deluxe Cot . Pack them in the tow vehicle, and when you reach the campground you can set up the tent next to the trailer. If she can sit and sleep in the tent but walk into the trailer for the galley and bathroom, this might satisfy her "back to nature" cravings without breaking the budget. I actually have done this very thing myself recently because I have been having some of those feelings, but I don't want to give up hard sides entirely. The tent goes up in about 2-3 minutes, has generous windows on all four sides, and is large enough to very easily hold a cot plus a zero gravity lounger. And the cot (surprisingly comfy with a bit of memory foam added) means no sleeping on the ground.
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Mike, some good thoughts/ideas.

BH and myself both like the sounds of nature and I think that is the attraction of having some fabric in the mix.

We do have a Canadian Tire tent which we have been setting up in the back yard for the grandson to sleep in. As you suggested that may be a good idea to take with us when we want get the urge to get the natural ambiance.

I guess another thing to consider is that I myself have recently solved a sleep problem issue (insomnia) and now actually sleep when we go to bed, instead of laying there half the night listening to the sounds of nature.

I really don't want to tow a White box sticky.
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Wayne-

I was looking through Odyssey options and on etrailer came across tents like this for the Odyssey, Certainly the back of the Odyssey would make a great bed, see Frederick's post on the subject.

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08 18' Cub. I have to admit. The space inside was nice....... actually it was very nice, considering it was 6' shorter than our current trailer.
So, if it rained on you just before breaking camp what happens to the water on the "tent" end when you fold it up to go home? Does it end up inside the trailer? I have seen these hybrids around here and wonder what somebody in Florida was thinking when they bought one. It rains a lot here you know.
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Tim,

I never thought much about an Odyssey/Tent combo until we purchased the Odyssey and Ginny said it's so large we could live in it. As well in Newfoundland their were two long range travelers in our last Provincial park using their minivan for camping.

Since MC1's wife was interested in more primitive camping environment I thought I'd throw this out. I recall that a storage bag is provided for the tent to take care of a damp tent. Of course most of the new tent fabrics do not absorb water.
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It really simple the solution to the partner wanting the "feel" of real tent camping. Same thing you do with the teenagers or grandkids. Here is your tent and sleeping bag. With less need to tell your adult partner to stop making so much noise horsing around with the cousins or they won't get smores tomorrow night.
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Wet tent material is always a problem with rain and packing up wet. When tent camping (no trailer), one has little choice about the weather forecast. But I think that with either a tent end on a hybrid trailer or a more simple tent as a supplement to a trailer, one could be mindful of the forecast and only use the tent part when the weather is cooperative. A person might get surprised sometimes, but with due care one could probably avoid the wet-canvas-pack-up situation almost every time.
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