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Old 08-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #41
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Almost all early mini-motorhomes (Toyota, Nissan/Datsun) had a "walk-through" cab. But you had to be a 4' tall size 1 to actually walk through

Some of the earliest of the class "C" offerings were originally called "Full chassis Campers" to denote a difference from slide-ins and usually only had a cab window pass through



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Almost all early mini-motorhomes (Toyota, Nissan/Datsun) had a "walk-through" cab. But you had to be a 4' tall size 1 to actually walk through

Some of the earliest of the class "C" offerings were originally called "Full chassis Campers" to denote a difference from slide-ins and usually only had a cab window pass through
In 1973 the Paducah KY Datsun dealer had a PL620 with a Holmes wrecker body!
Here's a picture of one similar to it...
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:19 AM   #43
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Yes, a cutaway SuperCab would have the longest Ranger wheelbase, and it could be a SuperCab, but I am thinking it is a standard cab for a few reasons:.....
Isn't this a 1985 Ranger? If so, super cab wasn't yet offered.

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Old 08-22-2013, 01:40 PM   #44
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Interesting to compare the Ranger version to the Dakota version. Same molds for the cabin with an addition trim piece to adapt to the Dakota body. I would speculate they dropped the Ranger in favor of the larger ( more robust?) mid size Dakota. Raz
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In 1973 the Paducah KY Datsun dealer had a PL620 with a Holmes wrecker body!
Here's a picture of one similar to it...
Excellent! Someone around here (an auto salvage business called HonDaToy) had a wrecker on a 4x4 Toyota pickup (long pre-Tacoma, I think it was a mid-1980's model) a couple of decades ago, but the Datsun is even smaller. The Toyota had a massive front bumper arrangement as ballast.

I guess the point is that relatively small trucks can do a lot of work.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:23 PM   #46
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I had a 1972 Datsun 1600 and it was as tough as anything else I've owned.
Sold it to my father-in-law and he got re-ended and insurance company
totaled it. Came with thin 6-ply tires.

If I still had it I would pull my Snoozy with it.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:29 PM   #47
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Isn't this a 1985 Ranger? If so, super cab wasn't yet offered.
Good catch. I caught that for the Dakota (no Club Cab in 1987), but forgot about it for the Ranger (no Super Cab in 1985).

Thus, it is a 114" wheelbase Ranger. Not a lot of space for a motorhome...
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Good catch. I caught that for the Dakota (no Club Cab in 1987), but forgot about it for the Ranger (no Super Cab in 1985).

Thus, it is a 114" wheelbase Ranger. Not a lot of space for a motorhome...
I have a dim memory of a Ranger chassis cab being offered with unique frame, but maybe I'm all wet. It wasn't mentioned in the Wiki I linked.

Edit: maybe this? http://www.milespergallon.info/?did=1160&year=1985
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:37 PM   #49
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I had a 1972 Datsun 1600 and it was as tough as anything else I've owned.
Sold it to my father-in-law and he got re-ended and insurance company
totaled it. Came with thin 6-ply tires.

If I still had it I would pull my Snoozy with it.
I think it was probably a better truck than the PL620 which came out in 1973.
I bought one new because I could no longer get a 1200 sedan.I had it for about 8 months in which time it broke down more than all the cars I have owned since, combined. It was cute and fun but could seldom get completely out of sight without a breakdown.
The 510 and the 1200 were great little cars, but 1973 brought the B210 which was about as reliable as the PL620 and had to be the single most uncomfortable car in automotive history. I mean I've seen people fall asleep on church pews but the B210 actually hurt to sit in, even on the showroom floor!
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I think it was probably a better truck than the PL620 which came out in 1973.
I bought one new because I could no longer get a 1200 sedan.I had it for about 8 months in which time it broke down more than all the cars I have owned since, combined. It was cute and fun but could seldom get completely out of sight without a breakdown.
The 510 and the 1200 were great little cars, but 1973 brought the B210 which was about as reliable as the PL620 and had to be the single most uncomfortable car in automotive history. I mean I've seen people fall asleep on church pews but the B210 actually hurt to sit in, even on the showroom floor!
Think I forgot to mention mine was the Datsun pickup.
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Think I forgot to mention mine was the Datsun pickup.
No you didn't...
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Right.
This is similar to what I had only mine was blue.

Market: 1972 Datsun 1600 Pickup - Autoweek
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Good catch. I caught that for the Dakota (no Club Cab in 1987), but forgot about it for the Ranger (no Super Cab in 1985).

Thus, it is a 114" wheelbase Ranger. Not a lot of space for a motorhome...
You are probably right, but Scamp used to assign model year based on the calendar year.(At least for their trailers)
"Not a lot space for an (RV)" ...I've heard that said for every other Scamp as well!
When I heard about the Scamp motorhome on a Ranger chassis, I was excited, thinking it would combine so many of my interests.
While it is a nice little motorhome,I was disappointed that it was indistinguishable from several other mini-motorhomes like the ones on datsuns and toyotas.
I expected to see something more akin to a Scamp shape...
Picture a Scamp 5er made with a 13 body and mounted on the Ranger..
I may have to build one!
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Picture a Scamp 5er made with a 13 body and mounted on the Ranger..
I may have to build one!

Floyd,you better get busy cause That is a picture I want to see! You know that everyone here will give you lots of Help, in the form of advice. Why there just might be some from here that live close enough to bring their Egg and come help you in person.
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Picture a Scamp 5er made with a 13 body and mounted on the Ranger..
I may have to build one!
I would like to see that too... seriously, I don't doubt Floyd can put this together, and it would be interesting to see. It would fit in the rigs which we discuss occasionally, most recently in http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...day-60147.html.

A serious wheelbase stretch would be required...
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Floyd are you taking orders? Gosh! What shall we call this new creation?
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I have a dim memory of a Ranger chassis cab being offered with unique frame, but maybe I'm all wet. It wasn't mentioned in the Wiki I linked.

Edit: maybe this? 1985 FORD RANGER PICKUP CHASSIS CAB - MPG with Vehicle Data
GM offered their longest frame of the Colorado/Canyon with the shortest cab, as a chassis-cab, for maximum cab-to-axle (about 4 feet). With the Super Cab not yet introduced, this would not have been an option for Ford. I suspect that a 1985 Ranger chassis-cab would be a "box delete": a normal pickup except that it comes with no box. That's how you buy a short-wheelbase or single rear wheel one-ton. I would hope that if Ford did a specific frame for a chassis-cab, they would make it longer and give it a wider axle with suitable wheels and tires.

A discussion at Ranger Station suggests that there were chassis-cabs, but the wheelbase is not mentioned and it appears to be just a box delete, perhaps with a stronger (but not dually) rear axle.
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GM offered their longest frame of the Colorado/Canyon with the shortest cab, as a chassis-cab, for maximum cab-to-axle (about 4 feet). With the Super Cab not yet introduced, this would not have been an option for Ford. I suspect that a 1985 Ranger chassis-cab would be a "box delete": a normal pickup except that it comes with no box. That's how you buy a short-wheelbase or single rear wheel one-ton. I would hope that if Ford did a specific frame for a chassis-cab, they would make it longer and give it a wider axle with suitable wheels and tires.

A discussion at Ranger Station suggests that there were chassis-cabs, but the wheelbase is not mentioned and it appears to be just a box delete, perhaps with a stronger (but not dually) rear axle.
Thanks for researching this, Brian. It has been a long time and I never did much work on the chassis cabs, as my work was in noise and vibration control and the incomplete vehicles got short shrift in that department. We did make some odd combinations for fleet buyers, like UHaul, for instance, that were never sold to the general public.
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:10 PM   #59
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Good news and bad news. This scamp is no longer an option for me as we ended up needing a new truck. Good news is we have a new tug!
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For those interested, here's an '87 on a Dodge chassis listed for sale last year.1987 Scamp Motorhome 18 for sale in Dallas, Texas United States
I emailed about this and got a response today...........
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The price was reduced at $1,900. Because of my divorce settlement, i recently move back at my parent in Greece, i don`t need it so i`m trying to get rid of it as soon as possible (that`s why i`m selling it so cheap).
If you have any other questions, or need more info and photos, just drop me an email and I'll get back to you.
Sincerely,,
Mario Flores

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was wondering if you still have this item for sale.
I saw the ad on motoseller.com
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