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10-23-2019, 04:43 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Casita Liberty
Virginia
Posts: 650
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Scary Dog incident by alert
We were camping in a area & found an Apple Festival was going on. We grabbed out little dog and we were on our way. It was at an apple farm. It was crowded and folks had there dogs with them on a lease. As we were leaving I noticed a man sitting on a loading dock,with 2 Pitbull looking dogs. My wife told me to stop & we need to go another way. A couple walked by us with a black & white collie past the 2 large dogs. The one large dog alerted and the owner put his arm around both dogs necks. The larger dog backed away & the owner tried to stop him but the dog was to powerful. It pulled out of it's harness and attacked the collie in a matter of seconds. It was horrible. The leg & shoulder was injured on the Collie by the time the big dog was pulled away. Some one got a towel & wrapped the dog up & the owner got on her phone to find a emergency vet in the area. What if this had been a child? If your dog is to big to control, leave it at home.
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10-23-2019, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,445
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Pit Bulls have a history of this type of thing and were bred to attack.
Why people insist on owning dangerous animals is beyond me.
Some questionable people search out questionable animals for their ego.
I guess that if you need a dog to protect your drug stash a Pit Bull would be a good choice.
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10-23-2019, 08:24 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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I guess I don't understand why people feel compelled to take dogs to this type of event. Service dogs, yes. Pets, no. The events are for people, not pets. Everyone going to an event should be able to feel safe and not everyone likes dogs and there are those that are allergic too. I'm really starting to dislike crowds and part of the reason is the 'entitlement' some people feel about taking pets to human events.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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10-23-2019, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Lisle
Trailer: 2018 Casita Spirit Deiuxe
Massachusetts
Posts: 181
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As much as I like dogs and understand that having your dogs along can increase a person's enjoyment of an event, I have to agree with Donna. Dogs are often confused and distressed by crowds and not having a great time. Plus trouble between dogs can easily happen, even if the dogs aren't pit bulls. I do wonder why dog owners think it seems like a good idea to bring dogs to such events.
And thanks Donna, for your sensible point of view, as always.
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10-23-2019, 10:30 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,912
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Agree. Dogs and large crowds are a bad combination. Everyone thinks their own dogs are well-behaved, of course! It’s up to event hosts to regulate. So glad when Walmart finally banned all but registered service animals from their stores. I had witnessed several dogfights.
We love our dog, and because we love her, we leave her at home when we travel. She has a large, familiar, fenced yard to play in, and someone checks on her daily. Meanwhile we are free from the limitations of where you can go with pet in tow.
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10-23-2019, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Daniel A.
Trailer: Bigfoot 17.0 1991 dlx
British Columbia
Posts: 741
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I can well imagine the feelings seeing such an attack very scary.
My favorite breed Rottweiler I've had three over the years were well trained and behaved. People really need to understand the nature/character of their dogs and should not expose them to the public, put them in situations where problems are bound to happen.
Sadly not everyone is a responsible owner, as good as my dogs were I would never have taken them to such an event but often took them to the off leash dog park.
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10-23-2019, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 1,773
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My wife was walking our small ( Maltese mix) and our dog was attacked when the owner of a rather large mixed breed) decided to unhook their dog because our dog barked
The result was our dog survived ( almost $8 k in surgery bills which the other dog owner refused to pay)... and my wife got knocked down and torn her achiles tendon that required 2 surgeries
Bottom line it went into a lawsuit... the owner got off Scott free while her insurance had to settle
( she was an agent for her company... what a piece of work)
It took my wife 3 yrs of rehab etc
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10-23-2019, 03:29 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,155
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
Agree. Dogs and large crowds are a bad combination....
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Unless its a Baseball game
Thats mine, bottom of frame. . very sociable and loves baseball(s).
(And I would only agree to your statement as an absolute truth if you added a few words... "Dogs with irresponsible owners and large crowds are a bad combination." Unfortunately, most owners are irresponsible.)
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10-23-2019, 04:49 PM
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Member
Name: vince
Trailer: escape
Georgia
Posts: 54
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Bad dog/Good dog
Dogs like people for the most part are a reflection of their upbringing. At my feet is a 120# 8 yr. old pit mix from the ghetto that is one of the most lovable mutts to everyone, including other dogs, you would ever meet. She does not go in any store and neither do my 2 Bostons. They have no desire to go shopping so why should I make them. 2 days ago 2 men brought a mutt into a Home Goods. Why? I saw a man chasing his mutt in a Home Depot and he told me the dog was in training, for what? Clerk said it is manager discretion and he choses to do nothing. Wal Mart clerk said they cannot say anything, corporate policy. Manager told me a ferret was one persons assist animal and allowed in. Federal law says B.S. to emotional assist unless the animal has specialized training and documentation to support it. P.T.S.D. for example. The signs are meaningless without enforcement. People no longer smoke in stores and lived and as well they can go into a store without their mutt and live. Their mutt will thank them as will many other customers and employees who have to clean up after fido takes a dump on isle 6 and then the next mutt has to mark over the spot.
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10-23-2019, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,445
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I like dogs, but I get a little tired of all of the "comfort Animals" that are foisted on the public.
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10-23-2019, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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It is not just the big dogs who are the problem. We don't understand what dogs say to each other. I have seen a lot of very aggressive small dogs that bite people and also are the instigators of fights with larger dogs.
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10-24-2019, 07:18 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,221
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgilliam1955
If your dog is to big to control, leave it at home.
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No dog it too big to control, the fault of any dog misbehaving in any manner is that of the owner. Some are just too lazy to properly train their dog, and others feel that it is not that necessary.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I guess I don't understand why people feel compelled to take dogs to this type of event..
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It is because they are a part of our family and our lives, and love the social atmosphere as much as we do. I have never owned a dog that bit another dog or person, nor has even acted aggressively in any manner. I have bothered to train them all in proper behaviour when very young in order to enjoy a great life with them. Jasper, who you have met a few times now, has met many hundreds of Escape owners, and I have never heard of any sort of an issue with him. To be lumped in with those that either purposely want a 'tough' dog, or don't bother to properly train their dog, is a bit unfair.
The very same thing could be said about children, as a few of them are not properly controlled by their parents, but there would could be lawsuits if they are left unattended in the trailer.
We do have to plan our camping to avoid areas where dogs can't be brought on trails, which mostly seems to be US National Parks. I do understand the reasoning though, as a few folks that bring their improperly trained dogs that cause grief have spoiled it for others. If we do want to go, we can leave Jasper with many friends or family who are more than happy to have him live with them for a while.
We love our dog very much, and to be forced to treat him as an outcast too much does not bode well with us. I know, we are weird.
Now, those who own dogs as mentioned by the OP need to have serious action taken against them, especially if the dog does what this one did.
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10-24-2019, 08:43 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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The issue with dogs , loud music , smoky campfires , generators , alcohol , noisy children , etc , is an owner / parent issue .
Why do children playing at a campgrounds become objectionable once people get to the age where their kids are grown?
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10-24-2019, 09:01 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,912
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
Why do children playing at a campgrounds become objectionable once people get to the age where their kids are grown?
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Funny, that!
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10-24-2019, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,518
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10-24-2019, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,518
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I don't particularly appreciate sharing a restaurant, theater, or grocery store with dogs.
I really don't appreciate people who walk their dogs for blocks just to crap in my yard.
Worse yet, I don't appreciate motel rooms which trigger my granddaughter's allergies because they are allowed to double as kennels,and are not so designated.
The train has left the station on those things...
But worst of all... I don't appreciate conflating dogs with children.
It is patently offensive.
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10-24-2019, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jerrybob
Trailer: casita
Washington
Posts: 676
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An uncontrolled dog combined with an "idiot" owner is always a bad combination.....I bet the owner doesn't pick up after his dogs as well. Love dogs....not so much love for the "idiots."
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10-24-2019, 11:49 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,221
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrybob
An uncontrolled dog combined with an "idiot" owner is always a bad combination.....I bet the owner doesn't pick up after his dogs as well. Love dogs....not so much love for the "idiots."
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I feel the same. What bothers me though is those that group all dog owners in this group. The vast majority of dogs I know personally are very well trained. There are a few though.
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10-25-2019, 05:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Huck
Trailer: ParkLiner
Virginia
Posts: 852
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I always wondered why some RVers are so very conscious of following all the rules in campgrounds except dogs must be kept on leash.
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10-25-2019, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,445
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huck
I always wondered why some RVers are so very conscious of following all the rules in campgrounds except dogs must be kept on leash.
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That's easy those rules don't apply to "Their" dog children.
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