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Old 03-10-2019, 06:29 AM   #41
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I forgot to mention the 4 cats, 2 of which crawled under the comforter and 2 of which curled up beside us. Also traditional 1st Nation treatments for hypothermia are greasing the body well to hold in heat. I used petroleum jelly to grease up well in cold weather. Leaves me in a t shirt and shorts when the rest of the world is huddling into fleece..(My cousins were on swim teams in the Midwest, and they seconded the idea of greasing with petroleum jelly)
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:22 AM   #42
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I guess if it's between freezing to death or not, that would work for me. Wouldn't you have to wash grease out of your sheets every morning?
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:29 AM   #43
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Down

Down goes a long way to keep you warm. I do hammock camping and have been in -1 F no problem with my down blankets and coat.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:44 AM   #44
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Iím presently on a 2+ week road trip from Oregon to the Four Corners and back. Iím in a 13í Scamp. Iíve had a few mornings in the 20ís. I have a good down sleeping bag that easily keeps me warm. On desperate mornings I can run the propane furnace for a few minutes. Cooking also warms the place up. If really in need I hook the car up to the electric system and run the car while I run the furnace. Right now Iím just outside Capitol Reef at around 11:00am and itís VERY windy and 27 degrees. No bugs though.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:53 AM   #45
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The wind is always what gets me down south. Sounds fun though. I'll be down there in a couple weeks.
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:37 PM   #46
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Iím presently on a 2+ week road trip from Oregon to the Four Corners and back. Iím in a 13í Scamp. Iíve had a few mornings in the 20ís. I have a good down sleeping bag that easily keeps me warm. On desperate mornings I can run the propane furnace for a few minutes. Cooking also warms the place up. If really in need I hook the car up to the electric system and run the car while I run the furnace. Right now Iím just outside Capitol Reef at around 11:00am and itís VERY windy and 27 degrees. No bugs though.

FYI the furnace won't run the battery down for quite a while. Battery typical group 24 = 74 amp hours, 37 usable amp hours. Furnace current draw 3.1 amps. If that's the only thing drawing current from your battery the battery will last 37/3.1 = 11.9 hours. Average usage in my trailer is less than 1/2 hour per day even in cold weather. That would last with out any other equipment running for about 22 days. If you do the math you'll see that it's not necessary to run your tow vehicle which burns gasoline, put pollutants in the air, and decrease the life of tow.
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:55 PM   #47
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... Average [furnace] usage in my trailer is less than 1/2 hour per day even in cold weather...
Just amazing.
Looks like you could do away with the furnace altogether.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:23 PM   #48
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Somehow I missed all that...

Yes, I can run my furnace easily for two nights without a recharge, and that's leaving the thermostat at 50F all night, bumping it up to 60F in the evening when I'm hanging out, and in the morning.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:59 PM   #49
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Keeping warm

There is a lot of talk here about keeping the AIR warm. You need to change your mindset on this one Buddy!
- Wear long underwear to bed.
-Wear a tuque (beanie for American friends) on your head while sleeping.
-Wear gloves or mittens to bed.
-wear wool socks
-Sleep in a good sleeping bag and then put a down quilt over that.
-Put a reflective emergency blanket under you that will reflect your own body
heat back at you
-AND my favourite... a lithium battery powered heating pad

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Hi,

Wondering what the standard is for trying to stay warm overnight in a small trailer where it will get to about 21 Degrees F overnight. I have propane but no power in the trailer.

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Old 03-13-2019, 03:39 PM   #50
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Great advice.

My favorite, though, as this is a forum talking about trailers (aka home-on-wheels), is still a furnace.
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:11 PM   #51
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There is a lot of talk here about keeping the AIR warm. You need to change your mindset on this one Buddy!
- Wear long underwear to bed.
-Wear a tuque (beanie for American friends) on your head while sleeping.
-Wear gloves or mittens to bed.
-wear wool socks
-Sleep in a good sleeping bag and then put a down quilt over that.
-Put a reflective emergency blanket under you[r bed] that will reflect your own body
heat back at you
-AND my favourite... a lithium battery powered heating pad [on bed]

Cheers!
So that covers the eight hours or so while you are asleep.. do I assume you wear heavy winter jackets, wool caps, gloves, thermal underwear etc. the REST of the day? Sounds rather uncomfortable to me.

Also, regarding the sleeping bag so many people suggest... I don't know about the OP but I cannot sleep in one. I have tried repeatedly over the years but the way I position myself and move around makes it impossible to get a good nights sleep in a bag.

So different strokes for different folks.. my furnace runs more than 1/2 hour a day (if it runs at all) and I keep the air temp up more than some others because I want to be comfortable, often with shore power in cold weather if its available.
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:18 PM   #53
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:18 PM   #54
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I’m the guy on the Four Corners road trip right now. Although the battery in my Scamp is a new deep charge and I keep it charged my furnace would not run last night or this morning in Capitol Reef. I hadn’t used my battery for anything else either. Not even lights.

So, I’m thinking that by keeping my Scamp plugged in when it’s stored I’m messing with the battery? Or there’s something wrong with the connection between my car and the trailer and the battery isn’t charging. I had the converter checked and it was fine. The battery was good. They said that the car<->trailer connection was working. But something is screwy.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:49 PM   #55
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There is a lot of talk here about keeping the AIR warm. You need to change your mindset on this one Buddy!
- Wear long underwear to bed.
-Wear a tuque (beanie for American friends) on your head while sleeping.
-Wear gloves or mittens to bed.
-wear wool socks
-Sleep in a good sleeping bag and then put a down quilt over that.
-Put a reflective emergency blanket under you that will reflect your own body
heat back at you
-AND my favourite... a lithium battery powered heating pad

Cheers!
I assume that from your list of sleeping equipment you are talking about temperatures in the -30 to -50 below F range .
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I’m the guy on the Four Corners road trip right now. Although the battery in my Scamp is a new deep charge and I keep it charged my furnace would not run last night or this morning in Capitol Reef. I hadn’t used my battery for anything else either. Not even lights.

If you are counting on the tow vehicle to charge your house battery, you have to do a lot of driving and you have to have had the tow vehicle 7pin wired with 10 gauge ( not the 12 gauge that's normally used ), so that power can be delivered.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:07 PM   #57
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Mike, can you post the following info?


What make and model converter is in your scamp.
What kind of battery - flooded lead acid, AGM, etc.
What capacity is the battery.
How old is the battery.
What gauge wire between the TV battery and the trailer battery.


Sounds like the battery may be kaput if it was fully charged. If the converter is the original that came with the trailer and it is old enough, it might have cooked your battery. Can't really say anything without more info.
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