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Old 11-23-2019, 01:29 PM   #21
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Always fun to watch you try to bait people with your controversial views.
Controversial.... hmmm...
Are you baiting me?


Here's an interesting video comparing Tesla to Rivian to Ford...
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Old 11-23-2019, 03:59 PM   #22
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Looks like the driving position would be very "laid back" and uncomfortable.
And visibility very poor.
Is the back end open, or covered?
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Old 11-24-2019, 12:02 AM   #23
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I expect to have fuel available for the rest of my life and certainly for the life of my new truck.
I know that the refinery with which I was associated has announced plans which involve continual improvements reaching out as far as 2050.
We don't yet have a Tax in place which will require Electric vehicles to pay equivalent road use taxes.
Electric vehicles are still mostly "coal powered" or "natural gas powered" or what ever the electricity is made from.


Problem is, the CO2 hoax may well destroy the prosperity which supports travel of any kind. As for camping... maybe there will be an app for that!
The cheap price of renewable energy and falling battery prices have caused many coal plants to shutdown, some natural gas plants and almost all new generating capacity is renewable. And it's economics, not people's various opinions on what causes the unprecedented rapid increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. But yes, no one is in danger of not finding a gas station for the next decade.
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Old 11-24-2019, 12:19 AM   #24
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You know the reason it is peculiar looking is because without curved surfaces in the body or the glass the manufacturing process is greatly simplified, also by using stainless steel that does not need paint. That is likely why the 300 mile AWD truck is $10K cheaper than the equivalent model Y.
The old pickup makers are going to have a very hard time competing with this.
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It's peculiar looking because Musk wanted attention, and he's getting that. No other reason.
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Old 11-24-2019, 01:05 AM   #26
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You know the reason it is peculiar looking is because without curved surfaces in the body or the glass the manufacturing process is greatly simplified, also by using stainless steel that does not need paint. That is likely why the 300 mile AWD truck is $10K cheaper than the equivalent model Y.
The old pickup makers are going to have a very hard time competing with this.
I think, as demonstrated by this thread and the truck's reception at large, legacy pick up manufacturers don't have much to worry about for a few years. Most people who buy trucks will find fault with the Cybertruck, or any electric truck. Doesn't matter how efficient or practical they become, it's not what they grew up with so it ain't right. People hate change, more so with age.

Let me clarify that some truck owners have legitimate uses for their ICE truck for which the Cybertruck won't cut it. But you're kidding yourself if you think most trucks aren't exclusively daily commuters with an occasional weekend hardware store run. If truck buyers stopped lying to themselves and caving to marketing, you'd see a lot more Ridgelines and fewer crew cabs on off road tires crawling along the rush hour highway. But they won't.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:19 AM   #27
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Since Peanut is from 1973, 47 years old now, I was looking ahead that far forward and speculating how one would camp "then."

I have no doubt in 10 years, we'll still have regular cars and trucks to pull our rigs.

But by 2067, 47 years from now?

I'll be gone, but Peanut may live on.
Anyone have any idea how long these eggs can last if they're maintained?

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Old 11-24-2019, 10:33 AM   #28
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I find the Tesla pickup depressing. Why do we need bullet proof glass? Is Tesla expecting some kind of conflict to break out? What happens when first responders need to break out a window to pull out injured people? Guess we're safe so far what with the failure shown. The color is also depressing. It's November and we have enough gray around.

It looks like one of those Pontiac Aztecs.

Hydropower is not without problems. Talk to a fisheries person. The salmon are taking a beating. My existence here is because of the dams. My dad worked on quite a few of them. I have hopes that salmon will soon be able to exist above Chief Joseph and Grand Coulee dams what with the unveiling of the Salmon Cannon. Now if people could stop fishing for a bit...

I have two ebikes. The first one does not get the range that the more recent one does. Those are my second car for running around town with. Much cheerier than the Armageddon Pickup.
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Since Peanut is from 1973, 47 years old now, I was looking ahead that far forward and speculating how one would camp "then."

I have no doubt in 10 years, we'll still have regular cars and trucks to pull our rigs.

But by 2067, 47 years from now?

I'll be gone, but Peanut may live on.
Anyone have any idea how long these eggs can last if they're maintained?

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Possibly automated self driving tow vehicles that can take our trailers to the campground ,take some scenic pictures and send to our phones all while we stay home and work the weekend to pay for it.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:21 PM   #30
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The cheap price of renewable energy and falling battery prices have caused many coal plants to shutdown, some natural gas plants and almost all new generating capacity is renewable. And it's economics, not people's various opinions on what causes the unprecedented rapid increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. But yes, no one is in danger of not finding a gas station for the next decade.
Thanks for the info, I'm sure you believe every word of it.

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Old 11-25-2019, 09:13 AM   #31
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Mikmay, my life is gettin' more like Soylent Green every year. I wanted to see the Ausable Chasm...so I found it online and looked at the pictures.


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It’s not molded, but I believe I have the perfect trailer to pull behind the Tesla Cybertruck: the Taxa Cricket. Light and low-profile for maximum range. Best of all, they appear similarly styled from post-apocalyptic scrap for an authentic dystopian vibe.

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The cyborg and the cybug. The irony of a rig styled for Armageddon and powered by electricity is almost more than I can resist...

Is that the toilet hanging on the tongue jack?
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Best of all, it also appears to be assembled from post-apocalyptic scrap.

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Nice find. 👍
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Old 11-25-2019, 12:02 PM   #34
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I so agree! Post-apocalyptic is a good description. Mad Max kind of trailer.

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I thought it was designed like the F117 Stealth fighter so the radar waves from the speed traps would bounce away from the speed detectors!
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Old 11-25-2019, 05:07 PM   #36
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I thought it was designed like the F117 Stealth fighter so the radar waves from the speed traps would bounce away from the speed detectors!
If thatís the case Iím putting in my order now , no gas , no tickets
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Itís not molded, but I believe I have the perfect trailer to pull behind the Tesla Cybertruck: the Taxa Cricket. Light and low-profile for maximum range. Best of all, they appear similarly styled from post-apocalyptic scrap for an authentic dystopian vibe.

Attachment 132389

The cyborg and the cybug. The irony of a rig styled for Armageddon and powered by electricity is almost more than I can resist...

Is that the toilet hanging on the tongue jack?
LOVE IT!
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Different strokes for different folks. I saw one of these things in Oregon. Prewrecked
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I have a question. Is there a reliable source that compares all the energy (electric, coal, natural gas, etc) that goes into producing something like this vehicle to the energy savings, cost of upkeep, recycling the batteries, etc? Where's the steel, glass, batteries, etc. manufactured? Are we just sending the pollution problems someplace else other than here in North America? Please nothing political. Just an old inquiring mind.
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I have a question. Is there a reliable source that compares all the energy (electric, coal, natural gas, etc) that goes into producing something like this vehicle to the energy savings, cost of upkeep, recycling the batteries, etc? Where's the steel, glass, batteries, etc. manufactured? Are we just sending the pollution problems someplace else other than here in North America? Please nothing political. Just an old inquiring mind.
I remember when the paper diaper manufacturers did a study which "proved" that paper diapers were more environmentally friendly than cloth.


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