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Old 04-28-2011, 07:20 PM   #61
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Number the entries, then as we discuss them, we can refer to them by number.

Did you include the weights taken at Quartzsite this February?
That's a good suggestion! The Lines are now numbered.

The February Quartzsite trailers are included; That's the only time I weighed any Trillium.
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Old 05-01-2011, 07:56 AM   #62
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Our trailer is very well loaded when we travel, food for a week, wine for a week, pots and dishes to feed an army, clothing for all weather conditions, chairs, tableS, out door lights, boxes of extra might need items, decorations to make it more home like, screened in room (love it), rugs, grass, etc., etc. We used to be able to travel with four of us in a VW rabbit and a 13' scamp or be gone for weeks on two motorcycles and only take what we carried, I don't know what happened. It's a good thing our tow vehicle is up to the challenge.
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Baled?
That could explain it...

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It would not add much weight if it is the kind that sells by the ounce or fractions of an ounce.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:35 AM   #63
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We decided to see what the weight of our 19' Escape is empty. We took everything out of the trailer (left in the table, seat cushions and mattress), emptied out the holding tanks and drained the water system. Our empty weight did include the batteries (twin 6V), the propane tanks and spare tire and any other factory options we had added (air conditioner).

The empty trailer weight is 3130 lbs (2670 lbs axles + 460 lbs tongue). That is a difference of about 620 lbs from the advertised dry weight. With a GVWR of 4000 lbs, that leaves weight capacity of 870 lbs in our trailer.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:45 PM   #64
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Intreasting number Mike! You started out at 3755 with it loaded with gear so thats 625lbs of stuff you took out? is that right? Who would have guessed that seeing as you dont carry nearly as much bling that other do! I think I may need to go back on a serious weight watching plan as well.

How much do you think was water weight vs gear?

So with 870lbs to spare does she get to keep the pots?
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:05 PM   #65
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Our empty weight did include the batteries (twin 6V), the propane tanks and spare tire and any other factory options we had added (air conditioner)
I think it's absurd that manufacturers omit batteries and propane tanks when advertising "dry weight".
Who goes out without them?
I know, I know- there's variation in batteries, etc.
But they could give "dries" including one tank and an average deep-cycle battery...
Given the strangely high tongue weights these days, I wonder how many people have found themselves exceeding their TV's capacity just by putting a battery and a tank on the tongue where they're supposed to go by design.

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Intreasting number Mike! You started out at 3755 with it loaded with gear so thats 625lbs of stuff you took out? is that right? Who would have guessed that seeing as you dont carry nearly as much bling that other do! I think I may need to go back on a serious weight watching plan as well.

How much do you think was water weight vs gear?

So with 870lbs to spare does she get to keep the pots?
Carol. It has been kind of an interesting and I think a valuable experiment. When we weighed in at 3755, I estimated the water on board to be between 125 and 150 lbs, so the rest of the 600 +/- would be our "stuff". When we repack, we are going to try to reduce our "stuff" by about 200 lbs. and we might "tweak" the pots a bit.
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Mike I dont think I want to be around when its decided who gets to keep what! ROFL or at your campsite it might be rolling down the hill laughing!
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:50 PM   #68
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That's the best thing I ever saw. I wish you could tell me how much my 13 foot Aer-Flo weighs. I have 1000kg on the registry but that is 2200 pounds which doesn't seem to be right.
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Old 05-14-2011, 06:56 AM   #69
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Just saw your list of weights. I have a 2009 scamp fiver 19'. I had guessed my loaded weight to 3500#. I see by your weights that I am very close to that as we seem to overpack. thanks for your input.........scampincampens from hannibal mo :-))
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On my way home from Maryhill today I pulled into a closed truck weigh station and weighed my 1981 13' Burro. It was 1300 lbs exactly. The battery and a mostly full propane were on the tongue and the tongue weighed 200 lbs.
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...weighed my 1981 13' Burro. It was 1300 lbs exactly. ...the tongue weighed 200 lbs.
Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:29 PM   #72
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Typical "nose heavy" trailer. There's not much you can do about the weight of the propane and battery other than downsizing or moving things. You can, to a certain extent, add weight to the rear by packing your goods the right way. That will reduce nose weight as well as stress on the frame and your hitch. This is especially important with a smaller tow vehicle.

Not sure about Burros, but Scamps of that generation came with class 1 couplers... So 200 pounds would be the very limit of tongue weight. I removed my battery, and will be replacing the propane with a smaller fiberglass tank. Currently, I use a portable battery pack for trailer lights (which I replaced with LEDs). I want to get he tongue weight down to around 120 pounds or a little less.
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Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
Total weight was 1300 lbs (tongue jack on the scale). With the axle on the scale and coupled it was 1100 lbs.
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Total weight was 1300 lbs (tongue jack on the scale). With the axle on the scale and coupled it was 1100 lbs.
Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims
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It only weighs 900 pounds!!!
were axle weights, and not totals...
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Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims were axle weights, and not totals...
I think that 900 lbs is what it says in the brochure.
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Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
Hi: Fredrick L Simson... I always tell folks I was born at 150#'s and I'm only 200#'s fully loaded.
I'm going to the AG Mart scale to weigh the rig. Can I just weigh the whole thing then pull the truck off the scale and drop the landing gear to take the weight off the truck for the trailer weight???
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I always tell folks I was born at 150#'s
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Can I just weigh the whole thing then pull the truck off the scale and drop the landing gear to take the weight off the truck for the trailer weight???
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This is how I suggest you proceed to weigh your 5th Wheel:
  1. Position the trailer on the end of the scale so the truck's rear axle is off the scale, but the landing gear is over the weigh deck.
  2. Get the reading for the Axle Weight.
  3. Drop the landing gear on the scale and unhitch.
  4. Separate the coupling by moving the hitch plate clear of the king pin.
  5. Get the reading for the Total Trailer Weight.
  6. Hitch up and move away from the scale for the next customer in line.
  7. Subtract the Axle Weight from the Total Trailer Weight to compute the Pin Weight.

For Travel Trailers, substitute "Tongue Jack" for "Landing Gear", "Coupler" for "King Pin", "Hitch Ball" for "Hitch Plate", and "Tongue Weight" for "Pin Weight" to make the directions above apply to you.
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Smile A great list

Fred, I am truly impressed. I know how difficult it is to get something to display decently.

One more suggestion, if I may, I learned that in order to get columns to line up, use the font Courier. This font assigns all the characters the same amount of line space.

I see you learned that tab doesn't work, nor does using spaces. One has to have a character, dash, underline, etc. to space data.
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One more suggestion, if I may, I learned that in order to get columns to line up, use the font Courier. This font assigns all the characters the same amount of line space.

Courier it is!
There is a random extra space inserted intermittently in the last column.
It isn't there in the editing window, just in the submitted post.
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Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims were axle weights, and not totals...
I weighed my 1980 Burro 13 when I brought it home. There was no battery and the propane tank was half full. There was no camping gear in the trailer, all the cabinet doors, cubby covers, cushions, sink, ice box, and cook top were installed. There is no water tank, water pump. or furnace and no spare tire or leveling jacks.

I jacked up 1 side, put two bathroom scales with a short piece of 2x8 bridging the scales, under the tire, lowered the jack and added the weights from both scales together. I then measured the other side the same way and measured the tongue weight using only 1 scale.

The weights were:
Door side 398 lbs
Street side 320 lbs
Hitch 90 lbs

Total weight 808 lbs

When I removed the body to replace the floor, I weighed the frame including the axle, but no wheels and it weighed 235 lbs.
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