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05-15-2018, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: 2019 Oliver Elite II
Texas
Posts: 367
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What fiberglass trailers are still in business today
I would like a list of the fiberglass RV trailers that are still being manufactured today, the ones you can visit the manufacture and buy/order one, ones in the 17' to 23' range. Not interested in Teardrops, Tent Trailer, just mainly the Egg style trailers.
trainman
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05-15-2018, 07:45 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,955
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Currently in business, 17' to 23', built-to-order, factory direct sales:
Scamp*, Casita, Escape, Oliver, and Lil Snoozy.
*Scamp's only model in your size range is their modified fifth wheel.
Bigfoot sells through dealers and doesn't build to order. Same for Nest and Parkliner, which are also a little under 17'.
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05-15-2018, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Outfitter truck campper
Colorado
Posts: 136
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05-15-2018, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Sprinter 'til I buy
Denver, CO
Posts: 944
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On the fringe, but in business:
Lightweight Trailers - Compact Travel Campers - Weiscraft Trailers
Another is Pelsue, who will make you a custom trailer. Their focus is cable splicing trailers.
I also hear about Trilliums, and maybe Armadillos. Do your homework, possibly sketchy.
PS, I don't believe Weiscrafts or Pelsues meet the 17' minimum. Thanks for pointing that out, below. It appears the HC1 is 13' overall, with a 10' shell.
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05-15-2018, 09:53 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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OP asked about trailers in 17' to 23' range.
Several of these suggestions do not qualify.
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05-15-2018, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Lee
Trailer: Casita
Texas
Posts: 493
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I saw this yesterday on YouTube. Not sure if they renamed the Boler company or this is just a new model. Its called the Armadillo.
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05-15-2018, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,955
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Yes, there are a number of companies making smaller units. Relic is another. But not many making units in the 17'-23' range specified in the original post, and even fewer selling factory direct, built to order.
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05-15-2018, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
Scamp*, Casita, Escape, Oliver, and Lil Snoozy.
*Scamp's only model in your size range is their modified fifth wheel.
Bigfoot sells through dealers and doesn't do custom builds. Same for Nest and Parkliner, which are also a little under 17'.
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Actually, Escape is the only one with custom builds as well as over a dozen options available for each unit. I do not believe that Casita, Scamp will change their basic layout like Escape will. Escape will also install customer provided items, not sure about any other manufacturer that will do this.
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05-15-2018, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
OP asked about trailers in 17' to 23' range.
Several of these suggestions do not qualify.
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True... however...
If OP is willing to live in a 17 footer, then a 16 footer should also be considered. Very little difference and many more options. And my "16 foot" Scamp is actually 6 1/2 feet. So if you round up its a 17 footer.
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05-15-2018, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,955
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Actually, Escape is the only one with custom builds as well as over a dozen options available for each unit. I do not believe that Casita, Scamp will change their basic layout like Escape will. Escape will also install customer provided items, not sure about any other manufacturer that will do this.
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That's perhaps a bit misleading. None are full custom builds, but all are built to order. I changed my post to make that clear.
Regarding layouts, other than the 17A & B, Escape only offers one basic layout for each model. They will swap a permanent bed for a convertible dinette, but they won't change the basic location of galley, bath, and major appliances.
On the other hand, Scamp offers 7 different layout options on the 16' model. Casita offers 3 different layouts on the 16' and 4 on the 17'. Some of the layout variations allow for different placement of galley, beds, dinette, and/or bath. Due to the fiberglass interior, they're not so much customizable as modular. I have seen a few off-the-menu layout variations on Scamp deluxe models.
You're right, though, Escape does allow a greater degree of customization in terms of finish materials and equipment upgrades, and it has a longer options list. Scamp is very accommodating of delete requests, allowing for easier customization after purchase, but not so much for adds and substitutions. Casita is least flexible when it comes to that kind of customization.
All are built to order, where you choose the layout and options, which is what I understood the OP to mean, in contrast to trailers sold through dealers, where you get whatever layouts and options happens to be available on the lot.
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05-15-2018, 12:20 PM
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Junior Member
Name: phil
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 14
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Armadillo Trailer: looks like a very quality build. Years ago I bought my 17' Bigfoot that is still in good working order today. The salesman wanted to sell me a 24' Terry instead for less money. Glad I didn't bite. Sometimes a well built fibreglass trailer is a better deal than a bigger metal trailer. Worked for my family for 25 years.
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05-15-2018, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 2,020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
True... however...
If OP is willing to live in a 17 footer, then a 16 footer should also be considered. Very little difference and many more options. And my "16 foot" Scamp is actually 6 1/2 feet. So if you round up its a 17 footer.
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Not a true statement, when it comes to Casitas anyway. I have a 17' Casita, and I can tell you that there's no way I'd have one of the 13' or 16' models because they indeed differ greatly, not just in their lengths, but more importantly, the 13's, (which are no longer in production, but there are a lot of them still out there,) and the 16's don't have adequate head room. My 17 footer allows me to stand up straight, and I'm 6'2". I would have to walk around like Quasimodo in the 13's or 16's which only give you about 5'10" of headroom. Mine is also a bit wider.
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05-15-2018, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,955
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A 17' Casita and 16' Scamp have approximately the same interior headroom, about 73-74". A 16' Casita is several inches less. All are 80" wide (exterior).
The biggest difference is the main bed width, at 45" in the Scamp 16* and Casita 16 versus 54" in the Casita 17. That alone accounts for much of the popularity of the Casita 17.
*standard models, deluxe (wood interior) is 54"
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05-15-2018, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 2,020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
A 17' Casita and 16' Scamp have approximately the same interior headroom, about 73-74". A 16' Casita is several inches less. All are 80" wide (exterior).
The biggest difference is the main bed width, at 45" in the Scamp 16* and Casita 16 versus 54" in the Casita 17. That alone accounts for much of the popularity of the Casita 17.
*standard models, deluxe (wood interior) is 54"
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Well, to me anyway, it's all about the bed. You spend a third of your life sleeping. Maybe not much difference in width side to side of the trailer shell itself between the 16's and 17's, but a big difference in how much room two people have to sleep in side by side. We have a real full time bed with a 9" tall pillow top full size mattress, No silly egg crate "waffle rubber" crappy pads to sleep on, and sweat on, all night. Nor sleeping on the absolutely intolerable stock seat cushions to try to sleep on. (I say try, because I have never been able to sleep on those worthless egg crate pads, nor the factory cushions.) YMMV
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05-15-2018, 03:23 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: 2015 Casita 17FD
Rapides Parish La.
Posts: 140
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...I can't speak to Scamps as I don't own one BUT, Casitas are 78" wide not 80...if they were 80"s wide, they would havvta use more marker lights(as per DOT)...IIRC...3 in both front(yellow) and rear(red) center plus, on each upper corner(red on rear and yellow on front) and I believe over the wheel well a 2 lensed light with red to rear and yellow to front...........
madjack
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05-15-2018, 04:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,955
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madjack
...I can't speak to Scamps as I don't own one BUT, Casitas are 78" wide not 80...if they were 80"s wide, they would havvta use more marker lights(as per DOT)...IIRC...3 in both front(yellow) and rear(red) center plus, on each upper corner(red on rear and yellow on front) and I believe over the wheel well a 2 lensed light with red to rear and yellow to front...........
madjack
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I was just going by their literature. Both Scamp and Casita list the overall exterior width as 6'8". The only thing I've actually measured is the inside width at the bed, and that was about 6'4". I am familiar with the 80" rule and figure they designed them to be right at the cusp.
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05-15-2018, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: 2019 Oliver Elite II
Texas
Posts: 367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gordon2
True... however...
If OP is willing to live in a 17 footer, then a 16 footer should also be considered. Very little difference and many more options. And my "16 foot" Scamp is actually 6 1/2 feet. So if you round up its a 17 footer.
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Do note here the OP has a 17 Casita at this time, he is just wanting to know what's out there for future reference.
trainman
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05-15-2018, 07:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: 2015 Casita 17FD
Rapides Parish La.
Posts: 140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
I was just going by their literature. Both Scamp and Casita list the overall exterior width as 6'8". The only thing I've actually measured is the inside width at the bed, and that was about 6'4". I am familiar with the 80" rule and figure they designed them to be right at the cusp.
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...you're right about the listed spec...however, it only has to be a silly millimeter narrower than 80"s to skirt that rule(and probably is)...........
madjack
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05-15-2018, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomandCallie
Happier Camper too.
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its a 13ft utility trailer, but there are rumors...
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05-15-2018, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathy
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Washington
Posts: 600
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Don’t forget Bigfoot. They make models that meet the OP’s criteria!
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