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Old 08-14-2019, 03:55 PM   #21
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Yes, the older models are lighter. Camplite 11 (14.5' long) were 1800-2000# dry, 2700# GVWR. Camplite 13 (16.5' long) that I'm looking at were 2250# dry, 3000# GVWR.

I still have a fascination with retrofitting a Snoozy with two sets of Disc-o-bed bunks (in place of jackknife couch and entertainment center), to sleep 6 and come out at a similar weight. But those are in even shorter supply than these Camplite.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:06 PM   #22
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a casita spirit 16 non-deluxe should offer much the same opportunity for adding a 2nd bunk where the dinette is.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:44 PM   #23
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I vote for the Scamp or Casita 16’ & packing superlight, enjoying the cozy intimacy, using WDH. 5 can sleep in there.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:53 PM   #24
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I vote for the Scamp or Casita 16’ & packing superlight, enjoying the cozy intimacy, using WDH. 5 can sleep in there.
he wants a toilet/bath. how do 5 sleep in a casita 16 deluxe ?? the main bed is 54x76, the dinette bed is 24x72.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:59 PM   #25
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What about a hybrid trailer? That would give you the main body of the trailer to do as you mentionned---have lunch, use the facilities, nap etc.



The fold-out beds at either end could be deployed for sleeping upon arrival, giving lots of room.


Our son has one and with 2 kids and a huge dog, they find it perfect.


Something to consider.....
Hi: theresa P... What good is a trailer that sleeps the most? We want a trailer that we can use the most, and boy did we use it this year!!! Thanks again for a great visit.
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Old 08-17-2019, 02:25 PM   #26
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Every solution to the proposed problem requires a compromise. The OP will figure out what works best for them, given the limiting factors that were mentioned: TV, weight, cost & needs/preferences. They want a hard-sided camper that sleeps 5 and that can be occupied on-the-fly. I didn’t say deluxe, nor do they all have a 54” bed. The compromise would be to give up a dedicated bath/toilet. To sleep 5 they’d need to go with a porta-potty, outdoor shower, outhouse porta-shack, campground facility, whatever-works-accommodations. It can be done.
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What trailer sleeps the most?

Exactly. The OP did say a “cassette toilet” (which I took to mean a porta-potty) was okay.

I also caught a hint that the family may eventually require a 6th bed (see comments on the 5-bed Scamp layout 7 in the first post). That means a Casita 16 or 17 standard with both front and side bunks is the only molded fiberglass option.

The 17 would be nicer (the 54” main bed being one reason), but that would require a new tow vehicle now rather than later.
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:39 PM   #28
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I had a friend who added a bed for the new baby. Basically a deep tray that fit over the stove at night.
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Old 08-17-2019, 07:58 PM   #29
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"What trailer sleeps the most?"
The trailer that travels the least.

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Old 08-29-2019, 01:27 PM   #30
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Thank you all for the input!

We looked at some of the hybrid trailers, like KZ Sportsmen. It would have been okay weight-wise, but even harder than Scamp to tow in the wind. Right now we are waiting to find the smallest of the Trailmanor (2417). The weight is only a bit more than the Scamp 16' was, sleeps 6, and should tow very well.

This is the compromise that seems best to us right now. We really would've liked a molded fiberglass trailer, but I think it just won't work out at this time. Something to look forward to.
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KZ trailers get lighter over time as parts fall off.
Then they get heavier from being water-logged.
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