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04-28-2013, 03:05 PM
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Which Trailers Have A Double Shell?
Again, I'm not sure what the correct terminology is but I just watched a new Scamp youtube video and they showed how the shell was made at the factory with a single shell. So, now I am realizing why Scamp has the rivets and Eggcamper doesn't, I think. I had thought the cabinets, etc. were molded into the Scamp but I was wrong on that. At this point, I am looking at the smallest of the small trailers so the Eggcamper is a little bigger than I want. I am guessing that Casita is single shell but that Escape and maybe Weiscraft are not. I'm going to do some research on this but wanted to post this in case someone else wasn't paying close attention to the manufacturing processes. I'm just used to stickies!
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04-28-2013, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft Plan B
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The Escape is a single shell, however it is available with extra insulation. The Oliver is a double shell.
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04-28-2013, 03:12 PM
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Trailer: U-Haul 16 ft Vacationer
Posts: 1,549
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Burros and UHauls are double shell, too.
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04-28-2013, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
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Possibly Cloud, the Burro ancestor, but we're not going see one of those round the corner every 15 minutes.
jack
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04-28-2013, 04:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathy P.
Again, I'm not sure what the correct terminology is but I just watched a new Scamp youtube video and they showed how the shell was made at the factory with a single shell. So, now I am realizing why Scamp has the rivets and Eggcamper doesn't, I think. I had thought the cabinets, etc. were molded into the Scamp but I was wrong on that.
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A single shell isn't necessarily an indicator of rivet use. It sounds like you're interested in molded interiors integral to the shell, a process some feel contributes to structural integrity.
Glassing molded cabinets directly to the molded shell, as is done with Trilliums (link), Outbacks ( link), and probably others is one way of achieving that result.
Both Trillium and Outback produce a trailer smaller and lighter than the Eggcamper.
Francesca
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04-28-2013, 04:20 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1984 Perris Pacer ('Tillie')
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Perris Pacer does have a single shell, but cabinets are glassed in.
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04-28-2013, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft Plan B
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And the Escape uses very few rivets - supports for internal cabinets, etc are molded into the shell. They do use rivets to attach the awning at the shell, and for accessory covers, etc, but not structurally.
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04-28-2013, 04:49 PM
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Trailer: Class A Motorhome
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I an understand your interest in construction, but I think that the general consensus would be that it doesn't make that big a difference. Unless you are planning to buy a new unit, the first priority is usually finding one, any one, for sale.
FWIW: The 13' Lil' Bigfoot only has a few through the hull fasteners and has lots and lots of insulation.
Is your concern cosmetic or structural?????
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04-28-2013, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft Plan B
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I can see one big advantage of a double hull - added insulation for cooler summers & warmer winters...
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04-29-2013, 05:32 AM
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My main concern was structural. I watched the video and thought, "That's what I would get for all that money!". The unit looked great and I wanted one immediately until I saw the building process. I do like the look of the molded-in interiors but the deluxe wood that Scamp has is beautiful. I just feel the less things to work loose, the happier I would be. Thank you everyone for your responses.
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04-29-2013, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathy P.
My main concern was structural. I watched the video and thought, "That's what I would get for all that money!". The unit looked great and I wanted one immediately until I saw the building process. I do like the look of the molded-in interiors but the deluxe wood that Scamp has is beautiful. I just feel the less things to work loose, the happier I would be. Thank you everyone for your responses.
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I have a 2004 Custom Deluxe Scamp which is now nine years old and has been towed 60,000+ miles Washington State, Maine, Minnesota,Florida etc. The wood interior is screwed into place, not riveted. Not one screw has yet to work loose, and the structural integrity is rock solid and as good as new. I have owned several trailers of each type of construction, and though they are all better than stick built, I would choose the Scamp Deluxe over any other type. Barring some terrible accident, I expect to leave my Scamp in my will. (if they refuse to bury me in it! )
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04-29-2013, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
I expect to leave my Scamp in my will.
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Have I told you lately how much I love, respect, and admire you, Floyd?
Francesca
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04-29-2013, 11:35 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Gathering Details
Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathy P.
My main concern was structural. I watched the video and thought, "That's what I would get for all that money!". The unit looked great and I wanted one immediately until I saw the building process. I do like the look of the molded-in interiors but the deluxe wood that Scamp has is beautiful. I just feel the less things to work loose, the happier I would be. Thank you everyone for your responses.
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Take a look at the Lil Snoozy. It is double hull with foam sandwiched between them so very solid. It also has wood interior that looks good.
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04-29-2013, 11:50 AM
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Snoozy is not a double Hull as described above.
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04-29-2013, 12:05 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Gathering Details
Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken C
Snoozy is not a double Hull as described above.
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Sorry wrong word. Double SHELL not double Hull.
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04-29-2013, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Romad
Sorry wrong word. Double SHELL not double Hull.
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What the heck is the difference between a "shell" and a "hull"????
Francesca
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04-29-2013, 12:21 PM
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As John mentions "The Escape is a single shell....The Oliver is a double shell." So Snoozy is a single shell to him and me. I don't know what Cathy would call it. I get a kick out of Semantics It's a shell game in this forum.
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04-29-2013, 12:31 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Gathering Details
Illinois
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The Oliver site said Double Wall Insulated Fiberglass. The snoozy has double fiberglass walls with insulation between them. Ins't that the same thing? just asking....
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04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken C
As John mentions "The Escape is a single shell....The Oliver is a double shell." So Snoozy is a single shell to him and me. I don't know what Cathy would call it. I get a kick out of Semantics It's a shell game in this forum.
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The Escape has a single fiberglass surface...the Oliver has two (one inside and one outside).
Doesn't the Snoozy have two fiberglass surfaces, one on the inside and one on the outside? Is the distinction that the Snoozy has foam between them whereas the Oliver doesn't????
Francesca
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04-29-2013, 12:42 PM
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Now we have 3 words, shell, wall and Hull LOL. There is a cross section photo of the Snoozy in the archives. Someone took it at the factory. We need Brian B-P in here, he will get everything in order for us. Brian if you are out there, help
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