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05-04-2012, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ken
Trailer: 19' Scamp
Nebraska
Posts: 109
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Why did they put a front window on a 5er?
I would think most people would prefer something less than a picture window in their bedroom.
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05-04-2012, 09:44 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2007 19 ft Escape 5.0 / 2002 GMC (1973 Boler project)
Posts: 4,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl E. November
I would think most people would prefer something less than a picture window in their bedroom.
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Hi: Earl E November... I'm sure glad Escape didn't add one!!! The two side windows are fine and the new vent over the bed sounds nice...think moon roof. Trouble with morning light is I'm up too!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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05-04-2012, 10:08 PM
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Administrator
Name: Mary
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21; formerly Casita 1999 17 ft Liberty Deluxe
Posts: 10,941
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl E. November
I would think most people would prefer something less than a picture window in their bedroom.
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If it was a window that opens, it could make nice ventilation for sleeping.
I agree if it's just a big picture, there's no point...
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05-04-2012, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl E. November
I would think most people would prefer something less than a picture window in their bedroom.
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Scamp doesn't any more,in fact they even changed the mold in such a way that it's no longer even an option.
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05-05-2012, 06:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
Scamp doesn't any more,in fact they even changed the mold in such a way that it's no longer even an option.
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Hummm. I saw a 2011 Scamp Deluxe 5er last year and the nose was exactly the same as prior years. So Floyd are you sure they've changed the mold? Even if it was curved, we know someone COULD put in a solid piece of plexi... it was done for years on the rears.
BUT, back to the original question. Scamp prefers to NOT do it anymore and really discourages it. That front window turned out to be a major source of leaking. Folks had to stand in the bed of their trucks to remove the gravel guard. That's such a PITA most just don't do it, the window gets filthy and you get to see that gunk from the inside of the trailer. Few put curtains over the front window too. Bad idea from the start.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-05-2012, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ken
Trailer: 19' Scamp
Nebraska
Posts: 109
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I never really thought about it till I bought one. ('96 Deluxe) With side windows and a roof vent there is plenty of light and ventilation.
I'll bet the gravel guard has not been off since it was owned, other than to clean the litter and accumulated critters that like to migrate in behind them.
Alf,, you definitely have the "dream RV" very nice.
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05-05-2012, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Hummm. I saw a 2011 Scamp Deluxe 5er last year and the nose was exactly the same as prior years. So Floyd are you sure they've changed the mold? Even if it was curved, we know someone COULD put in a solid piece of plexi... it was done for years on the rears.
BUT, back to the original question. Scamp prefers to NOT do it anymore and really discourages it. That front window turned out to be a major source of leaking. Folks had to stand in the bed of their trucks to remove the gravel guard. That's such a PITA most just don't do it, the window gets filthy and you get to see that gunk from the inside of the trailer. Few put curtains over the front window too. Bad idea from the start.
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Take another look, the boss is gone for the front window. Of course Scamp titles their trailers on delivery, not when they start construction.
I'm not sure the exact date of the mold change, but Scamp may not be either!
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05-05-2012, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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The pictures on the Scamp website don't show the nose section of the trailer, but I see on the spec sheet the gravel guard is still an option: Scamp Travel Trailers: 19 Foot 5th Wheel Options
On Edit: I borrowed this from Facebook. Floyd is 100% correct, the boss is gone. Now completely smooth nose. Must have happened in the last year...
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-05-2012, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,020
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Maybe some people feel like they have to be able to look out at their pickup in the middle of the night, to ensure that the noise they just heard is not someone breaking into it. Or maybe it's a claustrophobia abatement device. Just guessing!
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05-05-2012, 09:02 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
The pictures on the Scamp website don't show the nose section of the trailer, but I see on the spec sheet the gravel guard is still an option: Scamp Travel Trailers: 19 Foot 5th Wheel Options
On Edit: I borrowed this from Facebook. Floyd is 100% correct, the boss is gone. Now completely smooth nose. Must have happened in the last year...
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You should see the new brochures, they are still using interior photos with long obsolete fabric patterns.They still show the Catalina awning, and the drawings still show the front window on the fiver. Hard to keep up between the printer and the changes!
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05-05-2012, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ken
Trailer: 19' Scamp
Nebraska
Posts: 109
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Just a thought here.. The cabin of the 5'er looks essentially to be a slightly modified 16'.
Is the overhang made from a modified mold or the upper half of the 13'?
That may explain why they put the window in??
In other words is the 5'er made of modified old molds of the 13 and 16.. I think possibly.
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05-05-2012, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl E. November
Just a thought here.. The cabin of the 5'er looks essentially to be a slightly modified 16'.
Is the overhang made from a modified mold or the upper half of the 13'?
That may explain why they put the window in??
In other words is the 5'er made of modified old molds of the 13 and 16.. I think possibly.
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I still think they should make a 5er based on the 13. I'd love to see a 16ft fiver front bath!!
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05-05-2012, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ken
Trailer: 19' Scamp
Nebraska
Posts: 109
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Actually after stepping up from a 13 to a 19, the main cabin is definitely larger than a 13' (13' is actually only 10' inside).It's in storage right now or I would measure it.
My 5'er is a front bath deluxe.
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05-05-2012, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl E. November
Actually after stepping up from a 13 to a 19, the main cabin is definitely larger than a 13' (13' is actually only 10' inside).It's in storage right now or I would measure it.
My 5'er is a front bath deluxe.
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It's definitely larger than a 13' cause it's based on a 16' and it's 3' "too" long.
I have a 13' front bath deluxe and I think one like it would make a nice base to build a 16 ft. 5er in addition to the present 19ft offering.
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05-05-2012, 12:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Ken
Trailer: 19' Scamp
Nebraska
Posts: 109
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ok I am with you.
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05-06-2012, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1979 13 ft Boler and 1987 Bigfoot 5th Wheel
Posts: 2,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Magee
Maybe some people feel like they have to be able to look out at their pickup in the middle of the night, to ensure that the noise they just heard is not someone breaking into it.
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That's it for us. We like to be able to see all four directions in case we hear something interesting going on. We were thinking more along the lines of spotting four legged wild life.
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05-07-2012, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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the front window model is the anthony weiner autograph model.
lol ...sorry,,,had to go there didn't i....(head hung in shame)
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05-07-2012, 11:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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seriously though,,,aside from any leaks that develope,,get some "limo tint" window film. will keep heat,,and prying eyes out.
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05-08-2012, 05:03 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1996 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel ('TOGETHERNEST' SLEEPS 8
Posts: 270
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We have the very first 5er with no window up front it was built in nov 1995 as we told them we didn't want it. since then more were ordered and some returned to remove the window. removing the flat spot for the window was the only modification on the new mold after the fire
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05-08-2012, 06:27 AM
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#20
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
I still think they should make a 5er based on the 13. I'd love to see a 16ft fiver front bath!!
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actually that sir,,,is a fine idea. i consider the 13 perfect, the only improvement one could make being a permenent bed such as the 5th has.
but that would limit it to being towed only with a truck so....?
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