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Old 07-22-2019, 08:43 AM   #41
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There are some great false equivalencies here, that's for sure. Adam, maybe you brought it on yourself (not for your feelings, but for deciding to share them), but some of the arguments being made against you are ridiculous.

Every person in the world, including those in this thread giving you a hard time, could be given the same hard time if they posted here complaining about one of their own sensitivities or hang-ups. "You don't like getting dog crap on your shoes?? Well I guess you must not like dirt either, cause it's all carbon so I guess you should just stay in a vacuum sealed room and never set foot outside". Give me a break.

There are a lot of good smells out there, but most laboratory-made ones which so many people love and obviously want to share with everyone in a 30 yard radius are definitely not my thing.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:37 AM   #42
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My mother told me this as an adult. I had not noticed as a kid. She never wore perfume because of my father. As a younger man he delivered mail to the local university dorms. Hoards of girls would crowd around him waiting for their mail. Each and every girl wearing a different scent.
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:06 AM   #43
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Reminds me of the years I spent teaching ninth graders. The boys... considered cologne a substitute for personal hygiene. In the hallway before first period they'd all be standing at their lockers splashing on cheap cologne liberally. And I'd be standing at my classroom door with my eyes watering... literally. By tenth grade most of them had figured it out. Good times!
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A middle-aged women entered the elevator and I had to hold my breath for 9 floors.
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:09 AM   #45
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A middle-aged women entered the elevator and I had to hold my breath for 9 floors.
Well that explains a lot...
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 AM   #46
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Do I ever agree with you. Most all of those chemical bombs make me choke, literally. Our Scamp is over 10 years old and visitors to it always comment on how new it smells. The strongest chemical I've used in it is Windex.
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:02 PM   #47
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The smell of baking bread beats roses!

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I have no problem with making REASONABLE accommodations for people with chemical sensitivities but sometimes it is taken to the extreme .
Iíve worked at businesses where people have complained about the smell of certain foods and want the management to limit what food people can bring to work in there lunch or complain about the smell from peoples clothing because they use a laundry detergent that they find objectionable .
Next they will want bakeries to eliminate the smell from baking bread
You struck a memory there! When I worked in an office building (cube farm) someone, who thought she was a "big wheel" and no one liked very much, put up a notice on the microwave in the break kitchen saying in effect: "No Popping Popcorn" because they hated the smell. The vending machine sold microwave popcorn, and on more than one occasion popcorn would be popped and left in the microwave unclaimed.

People can act like big wheels, but we all know what dogs do to wheels.

Thanks for the memory!!

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PS: I had a bread machine in my cube and made bread about twice a week and shared it with my co-workers. Real butter and Jam too! the only person in the building that said anything negative was my boss, but she was smart enough not to tell me to stop. I did that for about two years.

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Old 07-24-2019, 12:03 PM   #48
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....They aren't trying to piss you off on purpose.
Don't be so sure. You haven't met me!!



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Old 07-24-2019, 12:11 PM   #49
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"As you may know from my other post I'm in the market for a fiberglass trailer and as you've all pointed out, it's rarely a quick and easy search. To make matters even worse, there's the whole air freshener issue. Half the reason I want a fiberglass trailer is the reduced off gassing and hopefully healthier air inside of it. So I'm looking through a local listing, good price, looks promising:"

My sweet and wonderful wife has a very sensitive nose. More often than not when she uses an air freshener its to cover up "MY" off gassing problem(s).



So there... that's why they are in our trailer, cars, home, and backyard near the BBQ!!!


Bless her soul.......... and nose!!!
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:27 PM   #50
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It's a tough one. I feel like there are very legitimate reasons why some odors should be more acceptable than others, but it still comes down partially to personal preference.

I feel like when someone complains about chemical, laboratory-produced scents, it's legitimate. When people in a US office complain about the strong smell of curry on their Indian-native (from India) coworkers after lunch...I think it's not legitimate.

I always think that being considerate of those around you is a good idea, whether the smell is "natural" or industrial. There are things I won't bring to the office for lunch because of how strong they smell.

In very small doses, I love the smell of gasoline. If I worked around it all day? No way. The same could be said for perfume, I think. A passing, subtle whiff of perfume or cologne is fine. A strong, constant smell coming from the cubicle next door isn't so fine.

But what people choose to do in their own private spaces is no one's business.
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Old 07-24-2019, 03:20 PM   #51
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Because they stink.
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Old 07-24-2019, 03:35 PM   #52
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Because they stink.
Advertisers have convinced us that:

Our bodies stink and we need special soap
Our bodies stink and we need deodorant
Our clothes stink and we need special detergent
Our houses stink and we need air freshener
Our cars stink and we need air freshener for them too!

Companies sell us car odorants that create that "new -car smell" -- mimicking the off-gassing of the chemicals from the plastics and carpet.

I don't know which is more harmful: all the chemicals, or the advertising.



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Old 07-24-2019, 03:48 PM   #53
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I think air fresheners stink too...
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:12 PM   #54
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I really like the fragrance of a new vehicle , too bad it disappears so quickly !!
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:29 PM   #55
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I really like the fragrance of a new vehicle , too bad it disappears so quickly !!
I saw that at a car wash once, it was a spray bottle air freshener called New Car smell!

I think most of what smells good in a new car is the carpet (and leather seats if you have them) but that is probably bad for you too...
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:03 PM   #56
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In my mind anything that isn't alive should not have an odor so when an inanimate object has a smell it says that something is living on it. If there is another odor, other than the odor of living things, it means that someone is trying to cover up something.

My wife used to wear WindSong perfume and I thought it smelled great. Then something happened and I became overly sensitive to it. Now it gives me a headache. Nothing figurative about it. I literally have a headache.

I like a whiff of perfume but if it lingers it really gets to me. There is a certain type of perfume smell that particularly irritates me. I don't know what to call it other than dry.

We all have 5 normal senses and all of them can be assaulted. Most of us don't like what people do with boom boxes and car stereos. It isn't that we don't like music. It's that we don't need to have someone else's music imposed upon us.

Heavy perfume, from any source, is like that. People who would never fart in an elevator will not give a second thought filling it with the odor of their "fragrance".

Just because one person likes something doesn't mean that everyone likes it. A certain amount of restraint is warranted in all situations.

Or just assume that what ever you like must be universally agreeable and go with that.

I have worked on lots of cars that had air fresheners all over the place. Step one is to put them in a plastic bag and out of the way.
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There's an ad on TV where they talk about "nose blindness". It's a real thing. When going into an area that has horrible smells you are advised to not try to hold your breath and just breather normally. The olfactory sense will become overwhelmed and turn off it's ability to smell that odor.

It's reasonable to think, then, that people who wear excessive perfumes have become desensitized to the odor they emit and need to put more and more on in order to believe it's "working". Unfortunately they are unaware that everyone becomes nose blind to odors they emit regularly, whether that comes from a perfume bottle or a lack of hygiene.

Unfortunately I've been in situations where the urge to vomit was way stronger and faster than my ability to acquire nose blindness.

Such is life. Exit stage right.

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Old 07-24-2019, 08:50 PM   #58
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There are some great false equivalencies here, that's for sure. Adam, maybe you brought it on yourself (not for your feelings, but for deciding to share them), but some of the arguments being made against you are ridiculous.

Every person in the world, including those in this thread giving you a hard time, could be given the same hard time if they posted here complaining about one of their own sensitivities or hang-ups. "You don't like getting dog crap on your shoes?? Well I guess you must not like dirt either, cause it's all carbon so I guess you should just stay in a vacuum sealed room and never set foot outside". Give me a break.

There are a lot of good smells out there, but most laboratory-made ones which so many people love and obviously want to share with everyone in a 30 yard radius are definitely not my thing.

It's the internet, there's a reason for all the memes and jokes about debating on the internet. I've found as a rule people will actually look for the area they disagree and drive that home.



So like your example for the poop, such is the internet and the fallacy of composition. If I say I dislike curtains because they block the view somebody will say "well, curtains are made of atoms and you can't see an atom anyway".


It's just the internet and I've been on it since before Al Gore invented it so I'm used to it. If there is something, anything to disagree on somebody will assume the position.



And heaven forbid you ever say you did an "axle flip", wow, that WILL NOT go well. People should know what you mean by now but there will be no shortage of people who want to explain why this is wrong.


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In my mind anything that isn't alive should not have an odor so when an inanimate object has a smell it says that something is living on it. If there is another odor, other than the odor of living things, it means that someone is trying to cover up something.

My wife used to wear WindSong perfume and I thought it smelled great. Then something happened and I became overly sensitive to it. Now it gives me a headache. Nothing figurative about it. I literally have a headache.

I like a whiff of perfume but if it lingers it really gets to me. There is a certain type of perfume smell that particularly irritates me. I don't know what to call it other than dry.

We all have 5 normal senses and all of them can be assaulted. Most of us don't like what people do with boom boxes and car stereos. It isn't that we don't like music. It's that we don't need to have someone else's music imposed upon us.

Heavy perfume, from any source, is like that. People who would never fart in an elevator will not give a second thought filling it with the odor of their "fragrance".

Just because one person likes something doesn't mean that everyone likes it. A certain amount of restraint is warranted in all situations.

Or just assume that what ever you like must be universally agreeable and go with that.

I have worked on lots of cars that had air fresheners all over the place. Step one is to put them in a plastic bag and out of the way.

Totally with you, as I said, using scented products falls under the golden rule for me.


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There's an ad on TV where they talk about "nose blindness". It's a real thing. When going into an area that has horrible smells you are advised to not try to hold your breath and just breather normally. The olfactory sense will become overwhelmed and turn off it's ability to smell that odor.

It's reasonable to think, then, that people who wear excessive perfumes have become desensitized to the odor they emit and need to put more and more on in order to believe it's "working". Unfortunately they are unaware that everyone becomes nose blind to odors they emit regularly, whether that comes from a perfume bottle or a lack of hygiene.

Unfortunately I've been in situations where the urge to vomit was way stronger and faster than my ability to acquire nose blindness.

Such is life. Exit stage right.

Harold

Sadly this is so so true, I think with the exception of maybe methane and rotting flesh among a few other things that will actually kill you the body just starts to ignore a smell but it's because the endocrine system was never meant to handle smells like modern day chemical smell so it's just overwhelmed and fatigued. Sadly though, we all pay the price and most people using scented products don't have any clue how extremely strong they smell.
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I see a market for UNSCENTED perfume.
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..... I mean, ozone is too much oxygen and a room full of it will kill you good and fast but a little of it will actually make the air fresher.
Not to split a hair, but oxygen and ozone are not different amounts of the same thing.

Oxygen is an atom that is required in some amount by every living thing on earth as far as we know.

Ozone, or trioxygen, is a molecule composing of 3 oxygen atoms, and is very unhealthy for living things. The use of an ozone generator in swimming pools can reduce toxic chemical use by 90%. It's the lesser of evils.

Dihydrogen Monoxide is very dangerous in some situations, and everyone is advised to be very careful in it's use. (Okay, my bad, I'm sorry.)

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