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07-25-2020, 12:30 PM
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Member
Name: MJ
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Washington
Posts: 37
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[QUOTE I’m aware it is a load, but the distance is short and the roads good.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I have transported some bazaar loads in my time and this isn’t even close to the prize-winners. That said they seem to be fussier these days regarding what you take on the road.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by dleverton
I’m not proposing anything sketchy or dangerous or illegal, just bazaar. It is an unusual configuration. I’m asking in the spirit of; does anyone know if this has been done, does anyone see any issues.
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Originally Posted by dleverton
gtblue. I have no problem with you having a strong opinion, I welcome it. The flaming and name calling I find inappropriate.
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So... I have expressed a personal opinion/concern regarding the tone of the forums, in general, responding directly to statements that "any thoughts would be appreciated", and" does anyone see any issues..." I have been abundantly clear that no matter what is suggested, proposed, or ever actually done, this is my opinion and I stand by it.
In return my "strong opinion" is "welcomed" if it can be referenced as "flaming", "name calling" and "inappropriate".
This thread is not productive. I shall take my leave.
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07-25-2020, 10:53 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Name: Chris
Trailer: Trillium
British Columbia
Posts: 138
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Have you thought about roof racks on the tow vehicle..
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07-25-2020, 10:59 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Hey Chris, yes, but my tug is a VW van, it’s tall. I’m still thinking about it as an option, but I would have to devise a way to get it up and down.
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07-27-2020, 11:09 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Boat on back of Trillium
So I haven’t made a decision to do this yet, but here is the thinking:
The authority for what is considered a safe load around here is apparently the inspectors at the weigh station on the highway. I spoke with one and he asked for a drawing.
I must admit it looks a little large on the back of the Trillium, but we are talking 155 pounds including the mounting hardware. I have not shown the upper mounting brackets.
The mounting pole, comes off after removing the boat and an axel carried in the tug bolts on to it making a boat trailer. It would have lights and all the legally required bits. The smallest legal road tires are 8” and Princess Auto has a 2000# 60” axel. The lights would clamp on the stern of the boat and plug into the Trillium, and would swivel to augment the Trilliums taillights which would be partially obscured when the boat is on the Trillium. From the back view the boat looks large, but the side view shows that the bow is somewhat streamlined. The mount/trailer would be 2” by 3” rectangular hot rolled tubing .180” wall, same as the Trillium frame. The cost (not counting the boat), is in the order of $350. If the inspector doesn’t like it, well it’s been fun speculating and I’ll leave the boat at home.
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07-27-2020, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Boat on back of Trillium
Funny how going from AutoCAD to jpg to a posted photo the pole moved into the middle of the trailer on the side view.
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07-28-2020, 02:56 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Posts: 5,185
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I've seen this done with canoes strapped to the back of a truck camper. Always looks questionable. Never seen it done on a travel trailer. Even with the keel forward, the boat is still catching the wind. This will act like a lever further decreasing the tongue weight and increasing the possibility of sway. If a rack on the tow isn't possible, could you rent at your destination. Perhaps an inflatable would serve your needs. This looks like an accident waiting to happen.
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07-28-2020, 04:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler
Posts: 227
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Sounds like an interesting project. Wish I was closer would enjoy the challenge.
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07-28-2020, 07:49 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Yea Raz I hear you. It didn’t look so large until I saw the drawing. I decided last night to give the idea a pass. Fun though.
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07-28-2020, 08:05 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Alexander
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1300
New Hampshire
Posts: 1,140
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Probably for the best. I can't imagine the twisting forces exerted on the bumper or the bending forces on the rear of the frame when driving down the road on a gusty day.
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08-14-2020, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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So, after I did the Acad drawing and convinced myself it was a bad idea I started looking for an alternate way of transporting the boat...and I found one.
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08-14-2020, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,925
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Sweet! Aren’t vans great! It’ll be so much easier to get the boat to the water if you don’t happen to score a waterfront site.
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08-15-2020, 08:26 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Matt
Trailer: Playpac
New York
Posts: 18
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Kom Pak Sportsman
The other option is get get a Sportsman, the camper trailer with a built in boat:
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08-15-2020, 08:48 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toomoody
The other option is get get a Sportsman, the camper trailer with a built in boat:
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Nice rig, looks very seaworthy.
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08-23-2020, 12:17 PM
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Member
Name: Tom Young
Trailer: Trillium Manufacturing
Arizona
Posts: 64
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dleverton:
I've seen some interesting/funny/dangerous mods & ideas here....
This is the worst.
Most members have given good replies, but I have to jump in to protect the traveling publc.
DO NOT DO THIS!i
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08-23-2020, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomA
dleverton:
I've seen some interesting/funny/dangerous mods & ideas here....
This is the worst.
Most members have given good replies, but I have to jump in to protect the traveling publc.
DO NOT DO THIS!i
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Toma, not sure what you don’t want me to do? I abandoned the idea of the boat on the back of the trailer, and now the boat is carried inside the van, see previous pictures.
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08-23-2020, 12:32 PM
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Member
Name: Tom Young
Trailer: Trillium Manufacturing
Arizona
Posts: 64
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Sorry Doug...
I didn't see that the boat inside the van was your new setup.
Too much of a hurry to reply to the idea of the big load on the back of the 1300.
Best Regards
Tom
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08-23-2020, 05:04 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Name: Doug
Trailer: Trillium
California
Posts: 246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomA
Sorry Doug...
I didn't see that the boat inside the van was your new setup.
Too much of a hurry to reply to the idea of the big load on the back of the 1300.
Best Regards
Tom
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Hey, no worries Tom, thanks for your comments.
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08-28-2020, 08:05 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1981 Trillium 5500
Posts: 1,158
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small trailer- eliminate the hitch coupler and plug it right into receiver? now it is part of the trailer, not a "B" train?, single wheel underneath allows for turning
Joe
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08-29-2020, 08:54 AM
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#39
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Senior Member
Name: Stu
Trailer: 2003 21RB Bigfoot
Coos Bay, Oregon
Posts: 115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe MacDonald
small trailer- eliminate the hitch coupler and plug it right into receiver? now it is part of the trailer, not a "B" train?, single wheel underneath allows for turning
Joe
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That is a brilliant concept. Really "thinking out of the box". Basically extending the frame and supporting with a wheel? Maybe two receivers? Might need to work out some of the engineering/physics details but it has promise, IMHO.
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08-29-2020, 09:25 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Escape 21 & Jeep GC 5.7 (Previous 2012 Casita FD17 & 2010 Audi Q5)
Puget Sound, WA
Posts: 1,775
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You can Google single wheel trailer to get a sense of some of the history and options: Single wheel trailer
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