New 2003 17í Casita, Liberty Deluxe - Fiberglass RV


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Old 07-29-2003, 12:01 PM   #1
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New 2003 17í Casita, Liberty Deluxe

We have had our new Casita for three weeks now. Several issues have come up that I felt needed to be taken care of by Casita. Issues from critical to frustrating.

I called Casitaís service department this morning and talked with Jay. Absolutely a gentleman and very good at listening and understanding my problems. He came up with an aggresive and resonable program to fix all my needs.

Things I need fixed.
1. Brakes donít work. One side locks up and the other does nothing.
2. Awning does not close and latch.
3. Gray water drain is running uphill, will not empty.
4. Bathroom door leaves a gap on the hinge side when closed
5. Misc. little nit picky things.

I have been authorized to get an estimate from my local Bubba for the repairs.

Iíll keep you posted.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f26b5ed50937drain.jpg/>
Gray water must flow uphill to drain.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f26b62dc0e12door-gap.jpg/>
Gap when bathroom door is closed. (mirror shows refrigerator)

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Old 07-29-2003, 02:57 PM   #2
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Bummer, Michael. Sorry this had to happen to anyone and expecially to you. Casita will surely come through (as they always have) but it's still a major bummer. Regards to Lori.
Darline:cry :cry



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Old 07-29-2003, 03:54 PM   #3
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Michael:

That hanger clamp on the black pipe looks lower than mine. There's barely room on mine for two nuts between the hanger and the frame cross member. They may have had to angle yours further down to match up with the grey pipe??? My grey piping runs about level with the bottom of the grey tank, yours looks much lower.

However, it appears that your grey tank will have no problem draining into the pipe, if only you can get it to the outlet from there.

Have you checked to see if the 3" outlet tee is lower than the bottom of the grey tank? Perhaps it is. If so, the only water retained will be in the pipe, the tank should drain.

On Casitas, the way the grey tank plumbing exits the rear of the tank, then forward to the tee, I don't think any of us can get a 100% drain unless ya pick it up and shake it. :)





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Old 07-29-2003, 08:52 PM   #4
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Michael

You got a bathroom door????:wub :wub
A man with experience. You KNEW to add that to your wish list.

(Jana note I need a smilie here that bows to acknowledge " oh superior one" )
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Old 07-29-2003, 11:09 PM   #5
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:conf lets see been working on this one <img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f27525ba1235bow.GIF/> close as I can get. someone had one with him on his knees, but forgot to save it.



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Old 07-29-2003, 11:19 PM   #6
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there's always kinks......... ;)



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Old 07-30-2003, 06:05 AM   #7
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For Jean: <img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f27b3f3cfc34bowdown.gif/>

Jay has always been exceptionally helpful. He listens, responds, and is very knowledgeable.



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Old 07-30-2003, 06:39 AM   #8
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Michael ... maybe Casita intentionally left the large gap on the bathroom door for you, so that you would have extra ventilation for when you use the bathroom.

Not saying you need the extra ventilation.

Keep us posted on your local Bubba's fixes.

I would think Casita could send a piece of bathroom door molding so you could have someone rehang it. (Don't know how easy that is, however).



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Old 07-30-2003, 07:22 AM   #9
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Bath Door

My door has the same gap. I thought they were all that way. I don't see it as a problem.



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Old 07-30-2003, 08:45 AM   #10
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I think Jana's is the proper acknowledgement I was after. Suz yours was more worshipping, a little further than I am prepared to go for a bathroom door.

So Jan where is he hiding, I tried to edit to insert and couldn't find him.
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:54 AM   #11
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<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f27525ba1235bow.GIF/>

Jean, for now you can just copy/paste him from Jana's message. Petition the great and powerful webguy and he'll (probably) add it to our collection of stock smilely guys...


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To copy/paste, you do have to add the (img) (/img) tags to the code. (Replace parentheses with square brackets when you add the img tags.) :wave For more about the tags, check out the Help section (button at the top of this screen).



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Old 07-30-2003, 08:55 AM   #12
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[*img]http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f27525ba1235bow.GIF[/img*]
now take out the * and you have him, I hope

It works better for me to use the quote button. then copy what I want and back out of the quote replay. I have mine all saved in a word file so they are handy. :) not as quick as the forum ones, but versatile.

Like minds and all that, Mary :lol



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Old 07-30-2003, 08:57 AM   #13
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:cblob Beatcha, Jana!!

But, your explanation was way better'n mine. (thanks)



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Old 08-04-2003, 12:26 AM   #14
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<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f26b5ed50937drain.jpg/>
Gray water must flow uphill to drain.

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f26b62dc0e12door-gap.jpg/>
Gap when bathroom door is closed. (mirror shows refrigerator)
:bh
Lori & I did a test of the gray water capcity. We filled the wate with 5 gals. and then openned the valve and emptied the tank as far as it would empty.

Next we filled the gray water tank with measured 5 gal buckets of water. We did this by pouring the water into the shower until the water would not go down in the shower. We put 26 gals into the 25 gal tank. I was totally surprised. The extra gal must have been the plumbing, etc.
the entire drain is below the holding tank and so it DOES empty OK.

Next, we added vinyl foam weather stripping to close the gap by the shower door. No gap left.

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Old 08-04-2003, 12:30 AM   #15
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Michael

As you might already be aware, the Scamps use long piano hinges to attach the bathroom doors. There are no see-thru gaps between the framing and the door. Would this work on your trailer?

Dianne
I think that may be a much better fastener. If I change to that, I would have to move the door latch and that inturn would leave a big hole. I would consider a piano hinge if I had a new clean door with no holes in it.



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Old 08-08-2003, 10:14 AM   #16
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gap can be good

I'd always assumed that the gap on the bathroom door was intentional. We've got it on our 2001 17LD, so it's not a new issue.

If you've got the bathroom power exhaust on, the crack helps ventilate humidity or odors away from the cabin. Negative air pressure and all.

After a brief period, the door can be opened without a burst of humidity or odors entering the cabin area. The tiny window alone will do the same thing, but not as fast.

The shower curtain serves to keep the towels on the towel rack dry but also covers the gap area to prevent leaks.

Michael, I'll be disappointed if it turns out Casita just didn't pick the best hinge and the gap was a really dumb mistake. Have they said anything about that yet? Suppose it will be discussed on the 11th.

Either way, it works for us.

But those brake and awning problems are not easily excusable, Casita. :nono



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Old 08-08-2003, 11:23 AM   #17
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On our 2001 17' Freedom, I don't remember any gap. Now there could have been one. If there was is was so minor I didn't notice.

On my new one it seems very pronounced to me. We put some water proof weatherstipping down the edge and it solved the problem. (just seems mickey mouse to me)

The piano hinge on Scamps sounds like a stronger better strategy.

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On our 2001 17' Freedom, I don't remember any gap. Now there could have been one. If there was is was so minor I didn't notice.
Hi Michael

When Patti and I picked up our 17' Liberty we also noticed the gap while camped at Bardwell Lake and jotted it down along with our other 'nit-picky' (and a couple not so nit-picky) things we intended to ask about at the factory before heading home to SoCal. When we went back to the factory, Jay was with another customer doing their new trailer orientation. While we were waiting, I checked the Casitas in the showroom and noticed they all had a gap on the hinge side of the bathroom door. I figured there probably was a flaw in the molds that affected all Casitas and nothing could be done about it, and since it wasn't that big a deal decided not to bring it up. It never occured to me it might be intentional.

FWIW, our gray tank drain pipe goes slightly uphill at the fitting that attaches to the drain for both tanks. I hadn't noticed it until you mentioned it. The gray tank drains slowly, but it does drain. And, sometimes I have to fuss with the awning to get it in and latched. I'd say having to fuss with the awning is the most annoying thing between the two.

I Haven't had problems with the brakes. That seems to be the most serious issue that Casita needs to take care of for you. We did have trouble with the water heater...pilot kept blowing out. Jay adjusted the flame and all seemed to work on our way home, but the next couple times we took La Casita out, we again had problems keeping the pilot lit. That seems to have resolved itself and we don't have a problem with the water heater anymore, other than the initial, first time lighting.

Hope you get it all taken care of to your satisfaction so you can get down to just enjoying your new Casita.

Rich



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Rich,

Everyone with the standard WH have the problem of the pilot blowing out. That is why I bought the upgraded one on my new Casita. Plus you can turn it on from the inside.



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Rich,

Everyone with the standard WH have the problem of the pilot blowing out. That is why I bought the upgraded one on my new Casita. Plus you can turn it on from the inside.
As I understand, we could have ordered the upgraded water heater, along with other things we weren't aware of and not told about by our sales rep, who was very new to the company. If I had it to do over...



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