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02-02-2012, 10:38 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Mary
Trailer: Considering a casita
Nebraska
Posts: 23
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Replacing a vent -- silicon?
The refrigerator vent on my Casita (next to the door) needs to be replaced so I went ahead and bought a new one. The guy at Casita said that I need to "drill out" the rivets, replace them and then make sure I run silicon over them and around the outside of the vent.
Has anyone done this? Is there a special type of silicon to use ... ie marine silicon? I'm going to assume I can't just go to Menards and buy clear caulking or can I?
Is this something that can be easily done? Thanks in advance!
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02-02-2012, 11:19 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 13 ft Boler American
Posts: 262
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You'll hear this many times on this forum, but silicone isn't a good option. There are good non-silicone caulks, I've had great luck with Lexel. I pick it up at Tru Value.
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02-02-2012, 11:45 PM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeP
You'll hear this many times on this forum, but silicone isn't a good option. There are good non-silicone caulks, I've had great luck with Lexel. I pick it up at Tru Value.
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Buy a caulking tube of Pro-Flex works better than silcone buy it from a RV place.
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02-02-2012, 11:58 PM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeP
You'll hear this many times on this forum, but silicone isn't a good option. There are good non-silicone caulks, I've had great luck with Lexel. I pick it up at Tru Value.
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Just thought you will need a 1/8" drill bit to drill the center of the rivet. You may also need a round punch to drive the center of the rivet out not always needed but sometimes. I hope you own a rivet gun to install the fridge vent.
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02-03-2012, 05:46 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,822
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I'd use butyl. And silicone is the Devil's goop! See this topic for more info: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...ing-24715.html
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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02-03-2012, 09:33 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Mary
Trailer: Considering a casita
Nebraska
Posts: 23
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We do have a rivet setter ... hope that's the same thing. Donna, I used butyl tape on my aluminum campers but noticed that there's silicon on the casita obviously factory installed items.
Ugh ... I really need to replace this vent since the slats are broken. Now I'm nervous.
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02-03-2012, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Slight hijack.
What is the best way to seal rivets?
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02-03-2012, 11:17 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Mary
Trailer: Considering a casita
Nebraska
Posts: 23
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The guy at casita told me to put silicon over them but seeing how silicon isn't the most popular thing, good question!
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02-03-2012, 12:33 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Lexel
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeP
You'll hear this many times on this forum, but silicone isn't a good option. There are good non-silicone caulks, I've had great luck with Lexel. I pick it up at Tru Value.
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I second the motion for Lexel , I used it when I replaced the leaking and cracked roof vent on my Scamp . The Lexel adheres better than silicone and seems to hold up better to the sun and weather . Plus if I remember correctly it's endorsed by Norm (Our Norm not the PBS Norm or the Cheers Norm)
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02-03-2012, 03:29 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Lexel
I do use Lexel instead of Silicone. It does seem to stick to fiberglass better. I primarily use it to stick rivet caps on, using the clear variety (it comes in clear and white.
The only place I've used it as a sealent is the fitting that allows the wires of the solar panels to go through the roof. Last night it rained hard for three hours and it nor anything else leaked.
Please know I've only been using it for six months but have had no issues. I buy it in resealable small plastic tubes and not the caulk gun size since my jobs are small.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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02-03-2012, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Lexel and Rivets
Lexel does not stick to silicone. On my trailer a previous owner had put silicone on all previous rivets. I had to scrape down to the aluminum rivet to get the lexel to stick.
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Norm and Ginny
2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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02-03-2012, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,084
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 Why in the world would Casita use silicone in their installs and recommend it for repairs, when it's so doggone nasty? What are they thinking???? Don't they read this forum?
[on edit]: I suppose once the spot has had silicone, more silicone is the quick and easy way to repair, except the repair won't last and will have to be re-siliconed again and again, right?
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02-03-2012, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Lexel
Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
I do use Lexel instead of Silicone. It does seem to stick to fiberglass better. I primarily use it to stick rivet caps on, using the clear variety (it comes in clear and white.
The only place I've used it as a sealent is the fitting that allows the wires of the solar panels to go through the roof. Last night it rained hard for three hours and it nor anything else leaked.
Please know I've only been using it for six months but have had no issues. I buy it in resealable small plastic tubes and not the caulk gun size since my jobs are small.
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I started using Lexel when I built my lake home to seal windows , flashing and other exterior joints . My local lumber yard recommended it because it held up to weather better than caulk and tooled easier than silicone. I too have used it (white ) to seal the rivets on my Scamp ,I just felt more secure in my choice of Lexel when I read that it was your sealent of choice also.
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02-03-2012, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Posts: 5,199
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I have used Lexel on my trailer and so far so good. However, I found it just about impossible to tool. If you want a nice neat bead you need to get it right right out of the tube. No smoothing with your finger. For anything you may wish to take off in the future like a fridge vent, windows, ect. I would use butyl tape. Easy on. Easy off. Lasts a long time. Trims with a dull putty knife, credit card, ect. Raz
p.s. Read the post Donna referenced. It made a believer out of me when I read it a while back.
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02-03-2012, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Lexel and Butyl Tape
I used tape for the Hotwater, water intake, electrical cord, cable and satellite connection, things I might want to replace again.
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2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
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02-03-2012, 06:45 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,822
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ALL plastic items on the exterior of the trailer will EVENTUALLY fail due to UV damage. In some areas of the country that happens sooner than in others. You can slow it down by spraying the parts with Fusion paint which helps inhibit the damage... but nothing will completely stop it. It's best to plan ahead, rather than have regrets because you thought you were affixing something "permanent" on the exterior of the trailer. Norm has the right idea... YMMV
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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02-07-2012, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave and Shelly
Trailer: 2001 Spirit Deluxe Casita "New Name: Eggspensive"
Iowa
Posts: 378
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Is this Lexel the self leveling stuff you guys have talked about before?
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02-07-2012, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Lexel
Quote:
Originally Posted by sfoss
Is this Lexel the self leveling stuff you guys have talked about before?
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The lexel I've used is not self leveling . I do know that it adheres better than silicone , is more UV resistant than silicone, has good stretch properties and Lexel will stick to Lexel which is nice if you need to repair a spot.
Steve Dunham
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02-07-2012, 01:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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I also vote for Butyl tape only for sealing vents, fans, lights etc to the trailer. I do though but a tiny bit of Lexel caulking in the hole before I shoot the rivet into it and put a tiny tiny dab of it onto the hole in the middle of the rivet.
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02-07-2012, 01:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 13 ft Boler American
Posts: 262
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfoss
Is this Lexel the self leveling stuff you guys have talked about before?
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as Steve said, I'm not using self-leveling either. Here's a link to the caulk - I use the 5.5oz tube (you can click hypertext on this page), and I use white. You can also google "Lexel white caulk 13033"
Lexel® - The superior alternative to silicone.
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