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08-02-2019, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Surge Protector size 50 AMP site, 30 AMP Egg?
Hi everyone -
Looking to buy a surge protector. The EggCamper is 30 AMPS, and most Florida SP sites seem to be 50 AMP. In what order do you put the adapter plug and the surge protector? IT seems like 50 AMP surge protector with 30 AMP adapter plug makes sense - but we have a lot to learn about RV electrical
Alternately - we can plug the adapter into the 50 AMP outlet, then 30 AMP surge protector.
I know some people do not use surge protectors, but we will be camping mostly in Florida. Lightning strike on the campground grid is a very real possibility. Two friends have had house fires from lightning strike so I believe in being cautious.
Thanks in advance for the support and advice.
Sandy
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08-02-2019, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft Plan B
Posts: 2,389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SandyNorthFL
Hi everyone -
Looking to buy a surge protector. The EggCamper is 30 AMPS, and most Florida SP sites seem to be 50 AMP. In what order do you put the adapter plug and the surge protector? IT seems like 50 AMP surge protector with 30 AMP adapter plug makes sense - but we have a lot to learn about RV electrical
Alternately - we can plug the adapter into the 50 AMP outlet, then 30 AMP surge protector.
I know some people do not use surge protectors, but we will be camping mostly in Florida. Lightning strike on the campground grid is a very real possibility. Two friends have had house fires from lightning strike so I believe in being cautious.
Thanks in advance for the support and advice.
Sandy
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Since, with the adapter, you will only be using 1/2 (or one 120v leg) of the 50 amp surge protector, it would be less expensive to use the adapter first, and a 30 amp surge protector.
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08-02-2019, 10:05 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Vermilye
Since, with the adapter, you will only be using 1/2 (or one 120v leg) of the 50 amp surge protector, it would be less expensive to use the adapter first, and a 30 amp surge protector.
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Thanks Jon for the clarification. That is what I'll buy.
Sandy
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08-02-2019, 12:05 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 257
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And don't skimp on quality, buy the best one you can find. Stay away from the low end entry models. I have the Surge Guard Model 34830 for 30 Amp service. About $250 and worth every penny.
Had a site this spring at a camp ground that someone must have torn the power breaker box off it's mount and someone wired in a new breaker box and it was not grounded. Would not have known that without the Surge Guard. Told the office I wanted another site and to get that site corrected by a licensed electrician before someone gets hurt or worse.
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08-02-2019, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockman
And don't skimp on quality, buy the best one you can find. Stay away from the low end entry models. I have the Surge Guard Model 34830 for 30 Amp service. About $250 and worth every penny.
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Hi Lockman,
Yes - I agree it is worth investing in. I've been the ground once - not fun! Not injured but boy was I
Progressive industries has the surge protector both without and with EMS (Electric Management System). The one with is about $250 but I'm guessing that is the one we want.
Thank you for the advice.
Sandy
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08-02-2019, 12:45 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 257
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Sandy,
Glad I could help, my unit is made by Southwire.
Another must have item is a water pressure reducer. Heard many a story about people hooking up their campers turning on the water and going out for supplies and returning to a flood. A water pressure reducer is a $5.00 item.
Stay safe,
Jack
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08-02-2019, 01:55 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Thanks Jack
I bought the water pressure reducer. Getting your first TT is more like buying a second house than upgrading from a tent
We pick up the Egg on 8/14 - right now there is gear everywhere. Only a few items left on the "must have" list and the rest will wait.
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08-02-2019, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SandyNorthFL
Hi everyone -
Looking to buy a surge protector. The EggCamper is 30 AMPS, and most Florida SP sites seem to be 50 AMP.
Sandy
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Every Florida campground we have been in, both private and State Parks, if they had a 50 amp outlet they also had a 30.
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08-02-2019, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Larry
Trailer: Casita17'Spirit Deluxe (aka: Tweaker's Casita)
Southwest Ohio
Posts: 321
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50 Amp Service vs. 30 Amp Service
Once-upon-a-time, noticing that the campsite I reserved offered 50 amp service, I acquired a 50 amp to 30 amp pigtail. However, several campgrounds later, the pigtail is still in the bag unused.
It seems that the pedestals that offer 50 amp service also have the standard 30 amp outlet along with the usual 20 amp outlets.
Good to have the adapter just in case. So far I have used my 30 amp surge protector directly from the pedestal's 30 amp service to my travel trailer rather than using the pigtail in-between.
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08-03-2019, 01:49 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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I could have used a 50-30A pigtail at my last memorial day weekend music festival, my pedestal was doubled up, and the other guy had hte 30A plugged in before I got there.... so I just used my 15A adapter in the 20A outlet, and we never needed the AC and never use the microwave anyways, so it was all good.
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08-03-2019, 05:35 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
Every Florida campground we have been in, both private and State Parks, if they had a 50 amp outlet they also had a 30.
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Good to know - thanks Bob. Reserve America site descriptions list as 50 without mention of hookup for 30.
Sandy
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08-03-2019, 06:20 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Sandra
Trailer: 2006 EggCamper #35
Florida
Posts: 142
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Thanks Larry and John for the additional information. I feel comfortable ordering the electrical gear now - and have a better sense of what I'll find at the sites.
Sandy
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08-03-2019, 07:53 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 257
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John in Santa Cruz
John,
That's weird. Are you sure that the other guy's rig wasn't faced in the wrong direction and was using your electric supply instead?
I was in the Pocono Mts. recently and the guy next to me was in just that situation and instead of turning his camper around he had to snake all his water, waste and electric under his camper.
Jack
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08-04-2019, 12:36 AM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: Escape 21, behind an '02 F250 7.3 diesel tug
Mid Left Coast
Posts: 2,941
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockman
John,
That's weird. Are you sure that the other guy's rig wasn't faced in the wrong direction and was using your electric supply instead?
I was in the Pocono Mts. recently and the guy next to me was in just that situation and instead of turning his camper around he had to snake all his water, waste and electric under his camper.
Jack
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no, they squeezed an extra rv space in the end of the row, this was a major 4-day folk music festival, there's only 80 or so hookup sites at the fairgrounds, and 5000 attendees. we also had to share the dump drain, but there was two water taps.
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08-08-2019, 07:00 AM
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Junior Member
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Apparently these surge protectors are pretty pricey. Any concerns about theft?
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08-08-2019, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: Scamp 13
Massachusetts
Posts: 257
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Yes Jim they are pricey. That's why I carry a padlock with a longer then standard shackle to lock the circuit breaker box cover whenever possible. I try to have all my padlocks keyed alike for convenience. I prefer Master padlocks.
Jack
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08-08-2019, 10:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Hughes
Apparently these surge protectors are pretty pricey. Any concerns about theft?
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More with a portable unit than a hardwired one.
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