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01-14-2016, 09:22 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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why ask why?
something occured to me lately....a whole bunch of these FG trailers have "rock guards" up front with a large window behind that.......
I wonder why it is that not one designer/manufacturer has made that front window an OPENING window.....that way you could leave it open and not worry about a rain event while you were away from the trailer....
....I'm thinking three panes with the center one being a slider with a fixed (outside) bug screen.......I wonder why it never happened....so simple, easy and really useful...
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01-14-2016, 09:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Philip
Trailer: Escape 13 /Hyundai Santa Fe
British Columbia
Posts: 471
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Some older trailers (Trillium?) had opening front windows. But the newer ones mostly don't. Sure wish my front window opened though.
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01-14-2016, 09:29 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 1,704
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My 2010 Scamp 13' has a bathroom window that opens. I've since learned now that Scamp no longer puts that window in. Another DUMB move by Scamp but that's not surprising.
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01-14-2016, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,314
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I have an opening front window on my Escape 17B.
The rock guard does shield the window from rain ( I open it about half way ).
The rock guard is no longer made so the opening front window is no longer available.
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01-14-2016, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Burro 1983 13'
Wisconsin
Posts: 141
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My 83 Burro has a front opening window as well as the rock guard.
I find them both very usefull!
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01-14-2016, 10:02 AM
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Junior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trillium 1300
Oregon
Posts: 19
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It wasn't just the older Trilliums that featured an opening front window; our 2011 Mattman-built Trillium 1300 has a jalousie window up front, and as recently as 2014 the Great West-produced Trilliums also had them.
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01-14-2016, 10:25 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Robert
Trailer: Surf-Side
Manitoba
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mzuzel
It wasn't just the older Trilliums that featured an opening front window; our 2011 Mattman-built Trillium 1300 has a jalousie window up front, and as recently as 2014 the Great West-produced Trilliums also had them.
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Surf Sides as well , and happy to have it !!
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01-14-2016, 10:26 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darral T.
My 2010 Scamp 13' has a bathroom window that opens. I've since learned now that Scamp no longer puts that window in. Another DUMB move by Scamp but that's not surprising.
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They now install an exhaust fan instead... better ventilation, no leaks in transit!...SMART move by Scamp but that's not surprising.
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01-14-2016, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Posts: 5,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mzuzel
It wasn't just the older Trilliums that featured an opening front window; our 2011 Mattman-built Trillium 1300 has a jalousie window up front, and as recently as 2014 the Great West-produced Trilliums also had them.
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Yup. No leaks in transit here either!  Raz
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01-14-2016, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,155
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
They now install an exhaust fan instead... better ventilation, no leaks in transit!...SMART move by Scamp but that's not surprising. 
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Yes I was told the front bath window tended to leak. So now we have the Van Air powered roof vent, which in my case leaked from day one due to incomplete caulking on the roof. I would be OK without the vent at all but there are advantages and disadvantages to any arrangement. I won't even go into the fact that the vent manufacturer "has not evaluated the use of the vent in wet locations" such as a shower.
BTW, in Layout four the only way to get any cross ventilation around the sofa is to have the door open, and even then it leaves something to be desired. Maybe I will put a powered vent in the port side wall, above the sofa
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01-14-2016, 10:36 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Brian
Trailer: 2013 ParkLiner
Upstate New York
Posts: 370
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ParkLiner has a small, opening front window in the bath. Then again, they don't make them anymore. Or again - yet?!
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01-14-2016, 10:41 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Philip
Trailer: Escape 13 /Hyundai Santa Fe
British Columbia
Posts: 471
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I'm very jalousie of those front opening windows!
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01-14-2016, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,314
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I've had no leaks in transit or otherwise. The rock guard prevents intrusion.
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01-14-2016, 11:34 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathleen (Kai: ai as in wait)
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16 1973 "Peanut"
Greater Seattle Metropolitan Area, Washington
Posts: 2,566
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Our 1973 amerigo has a big window on one side of the front and it does open, same as all the side windows, a one-piece jalousie (I prefer the multiple-part ones, but go fish)...the rock shield was apparently never raised by the POs and was just amazingly filthy inside. However, we've cut a big opening in it and will install a sheet of "generic Lexan" -- shield can be raised, then, window can be opened...painting that original weird green fiberglass white inside the shield.
Hoping to be able to see "through" the trailer when towing, and to have better light and view when parked if we aren't able to raise the shield, because of wind, say, or only parking briefly. What's the point of a window that is permanently blocked? It's our back window that cannot be opened.
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01-14-2016, 01:15 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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When you consider a 60-70 mph wind driven rain while you bounce down the highway leaks can happen on a front facing window, especially if the weatherstripping is old and/or poorly maintained.
I keep my weatherstrip soft and supple with dielectric grease. So far so good thought the Scamp is only 2 years old.
I can't imagine how a jalousie window could be weatherproof on the trailer's front.
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01-14-2016, 01:39 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Michael
Trailer: Trillium 1300
Oregon
Posts: 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Linck
I can't imagine how a jalousie window could be weatherproof on the trailer's front.
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Our rock guard seems to make it so. It has never leaked, even in driving wind/rain.
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01-14-2016, 02:39 PM
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Senior Member
Name: JD
Trailer: Scamp 16 Modified (BIGLY)
Florida
Posts: 2,423
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When I get filled in the front window and moved the side bath window up there I now have a front opening window!
Now you on build a rock guard for it.
If it leaks a little the water will just run into the new shower pan.
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01-14-2016, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Posts: 5,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Linck
I can't imagine how a jalousie window could be weatherproof on the trailer's front.
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John, in a hard driving rain or if I'm washing the trailer and aim the hose at the side of any of the windows, I get a little seepage. I had the same thing happen on my last trailer that had sliders. The rear window is the worst as it has no weep holes on the egress side, so if it's not level you can get a puddle in the track. Condensation will do the same thing. As Michael suggests, the rock guard seems to protect the front. Opening windows on four sides is hard to beat. Raz
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01-14-2016, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kathleen (Kai: ai as in wait)
Trailer: Amerigo FG-16 1973 "Peanut"
Greater Seattle Metropolitan Area, Washington
Posts: 2,566
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Linck
When you consider a 60-70 mph wind driven rain while you bounce down the highway leaks can happen on a front facing window, especially if the weatherstripping is old and/or poorly maintained.
I keep my weatherstrip soft and supple with dielectric grease. So far so good thought the Scamp is only 2 years old.
I can't imagine how a jalousie window could be weatherproof on the trailer's front.
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Good point about sealant; we'll use the white butyl rubber sealant tape when installing the polycarbonate sheet, then, as well as the little bolts. Otherwise, from the state of the belly band wood, it looks like that front window has never leaked. Not so for the other windows--which all need to be resealed and will be before we take the egg anywhere else. Thanks!
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01-14-2016, 10:51 PM
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Member
Trailer: Trillium Jubilee
Posts: 74
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Front windows open on our 79 Trillium Jubilee. Jalousies both sides, covered with stoneguard while in transit. The jalousies are the best feature of the older Trills - breezes in, rain stays out for a cool snooze.
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