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Old 01-22-2012, 07:47 AM   #1
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16 vs 17 casita spirit

I was wondering if you guys could tell me what i would be missing out on if i got the 16 foot rather than the 17 foot casita. Other than the obvious minus one foot of space. I think the fridge is smaller?
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:19 AM   #2
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Also the bed is smaller and I think the headroom is a little less. Others more knowlegeable than me will chime in I'm sure. I remember from talking with Casita a couple of years ago there were a few things.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:23 AM   #3
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16' weighs less than the 17' and has lower tongue weight, bed is smaller, frig is smaller, door is curved (not flat), floor is raised several inches at rear
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:40 AM   #4
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16 versus 17

We used a Casita 16 for a year. To me the main issue with the Casita 16 was the interior height, only 5' 10", a problem for my plus 6 foot height.

We had the opportunity to get a Casita 17 at a good price but decided against it because it was very heavy, particularly nose heavy. From looking at the statistics on this site, typically in the 400 pound range.

The heavy tongue weight and much heavier trailer weight would have required a substantial tow vehicle.

Our analysis was that a Scamp 16, except for the wider bed was a better choice for us. It made no sense to us to purchase a Casita 17 and than have to spend $25-30,000 for a wider bed and get significantly lower mpg.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:00 AM   #5
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Ok thank you so much, i never thought of the head room. DH is 6' 2" so that would not work for us. This site is a world of help at my fingertips. Thank you all very much!!!!!
So Norm, what else do you like about the Scamp as opposed to the casita?
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #6
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The Egg Camper has 6'7" headroom if that's important. Also a bit wider inside for a taller person to stretch out on the bed.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:07 AM   #7
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As cute as the egg camper is, i prefer the carpet on the walls for a cozier feel....Thank you though!
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:45 PM   #8
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Scamp and Casita

There are a number of things I like about the Scamp 16. We have layout 4.

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Front window plus side bath provides more light and makes the Scamp look larger than a Casita.

Wider aisle over the Casita 16, at least the ones I've been in. The sink side is only 1.5 feet deep providing an additional 1/2 foot in width.

Kitchen counters on both sides, provides an open look and potential for more storage.

The Scamp is lighter than the Casita 16 meaning a lighter tow vehicle.

I think that the Scamp is better insulated but have no proof. It seems to me that there's an aluminum foil composite behind the rug like surface coating in the Scamp that does not exist in the Casita.

Scamp has a nice online parts store.

Casita positives.

Bathroom is larger, the bottom of the Casita is fiberglass.

For us the larger bathroom is not relevant because we usually take showers in the campground but the Casita's is handy particularly if yo do a lot of boondocking.

Though the bottom of the Casita is wooden it is coated with resin and I've never seen any problem with floors from the bottom. We painted our's white for appearance (though it's mostly me that sees it.) Our rig is 21 years old and no leaks I can find.

We bought our's used and the only thing I would change is I would go with the larger refigerator and rear overhead storage (which I added).

We are on the road a lot and have traveled in a Casita, a Scamp and a stickbuilt Sunline. In every case I've modified the rigs to meet our travel needs. Our mods are at the following site.

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...6-a-46387.html

Hope that helps. If you have any specific questions please don't hesitate to send me a PM or to ask them here.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:14 PM   #9
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I've owned both. There is a HUGE difference between a 48" wide bed and a 54" wide bed. 54" is a std. double bed size. I use a store-bought mattress on mine.
And the 16' doesn't have a freezer compartment, if I remember correctly.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:51 PM   #10
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With your husband being 6'2", you might want to look at the Casita Liberty, which makes a "king" sized bed (you sleep fore and aft, instead of side to side). This means converting the bed to "day use" - not a big hassle, if you just roll back the covers to make a "sofa" backing along the back of the trailer. I think the Casitas are only about 6' wide, so sleeping side to side would be tricky, no matter how wide the bed is.

The Casita Liberty has a more open feel than the Freedom or Spirit; plus in the 17 ft., there's a few inches more galley space.

I hope this helps.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:44 PM   #11
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YIKES, I have been searching for a 17 ft Casita and did not realize there is a weight and tongue weight difference in the 16 and 17 foot models. Is there much more storage in the 17 foot model? I have a mid size suv and should be able to haul both but wondering if I should be thinking 16 feet because of tongue weight. I can do with the smaller bed in the 16 foot model. Height is not an issue. I do think Casita's are made better. My 16 ft Scamp did not have as much to offer as my 16 ft Casita. I wanted the 17 foot because of the door and screen door on the 17 ft Casita. Should I be rethinking?
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:33 PM   #12
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Casita 16 Condensation

Both the Scamp and Casita can get condensation on their windows. The Casita unlike the Scamp can also get condensation on their bathroom walls. Condensation on the Casita's bathroom walls was a pain because it led to mold, requiring the walls to be occasionally washed down.

Part of this was due to the fact that the Casitas bathroom walls are mostly outside walls with no insulation(?). The Scamp's one outside wall seems to have insulation and as a result no condensation.

After having both rigs, spending over 200 nights in them, and doing plenty of renovations and modifications, I can not find virtually any difference in the construction quality of the Scamp and Casita.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:30 PM   #13
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On another subject; Is there any problem with whiplash due to the trailer having only 1 axle? In the past when we passed trucks on the highway, our Scotty would sway a bit.
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On another subject; Is there any problem with whiplash due to the trailer having only 1 axle? In the past when we passed trucks on the highway, our Scotty would sway a bit.
I suspect you mean sway. Whiplash is what happens to your head when your car gets rear ended.

Sway is generally a result of having the trailer improperly loaded.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #15
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A midsize SUV with a 6 cyl. will work just fine with any of these trailers. The extra tongue weight of the 17' Casita dropped the rear end of my SUV just over 2". Had to purchase a Weight Distribution Hitch to bring it back up to level but I like the extra security it gives me while towing so I'm glad to have it. Have towed many thousands of miles since our purchase and have never once felt the trailer sway so as Tom said it has more to do with the trailer being improperly loaded.

We were looking for a 16' Scamp when we found and purchased our Casita but I'm sure we would have been just as happy with a Scamp. Now that we are used to the wider bed,the flat front door and the little extra room it has for the three of us it would be hard to go back to a 16' now. We average about 13.5 to 14 MPG so we do get jealous of Norm and Ginny being able to tow with a 4 cyl. and the great gas mileage they get. That alone makes a 16' Scamp quite desirable with the price of gas climbing again!
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:51 PM   #16
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Randy, After we get home from Newfoundland this spring we"ll do a few more mods and be heading out for our 6th loop of the USA.

Hopefully fuel prices won"t climb too much more but I rather doubt it. Gas represented a significant part of our expenses last year. I fear inflation is not far behind.

We like the Casita 17 but it's too heavy for our Honda. We'd like to have a lengthened Scamp 16, same weight, same frontal area, possibly better aerodynamics by extending and reshaping the Scamp's rear, hoping for the same mpgs with more Scamp volume.

Dreaming is fun...
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:23 PM   #17
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Yes Norm and Ginny dreaming is fun and so is being able to afford to travel and explore this great country. The price of gas kept us closer to home this last summer and we are still hoping prices come back down by this summer but talk about dreaming......So much to see and so little time!!

When we purchased our Casita it was advertised by the owner as weighing 2000 pounds. We were all excited to be able to purchase a 17' Casita that weighs less than a 16' Scamp that we had been looking for. After towing it a couple times something just didn't seem right so we took it and had it weighed and we were surprised to find out it was closer to 3000 than it was to 2000. We do like it and have gotten used to the extra weight but our gas mileage isn't quite as good as we were hoping....
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Comparing SD models: the Casita 16' has a little less overhead storage but it has a wider aisle because the smaller refrig isn't as deep. The 16' refrig doesn't have a freezer which the 17' does. As mentioned, the 16' has lower headroom, smaller bed and less tongue weight. The axle is a little farther back, proportionally so it is more prone to sway than the 17". My 16' in travel trim weighs within a gnat's eyebrow of 3000 pounds.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:58 PM   #19
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We towed a Casita 16 for a year with our Honda CRV and found it never swayed. We kept the tongue weight low at 230 lbs.

Initially we fid not use an anti-sway bar. It was our son's trailer and we eventually added one as a gift.

The Casita towed well. The Scamps aisle is about a half foot wider than the Casita's.

Also I think the front window gives a larger feel to the Scamp.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:10 PM   #20
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Randy,
I'm hoping that fuel prices will decrease as well but I'm not counting on it. My guess is that prices will continue to increase so my rule is to travel now.

Actually we're among the lucky rv owners,
Imagine if you were getting 8 or 9 mpg like many of the big rigs do.

This year it's Nfld and a big loop of the USA.

Many think we're foolish to tow with a Honda CRV but mileage (and reliability) are a goal. Yesterday someone asked me about the Honda, "Are you afraid to take your Honda to Newfoundland?" (9 years old and 190,000 miles).

Of course not, I'd be happy to break down in Newfoundland- just kidding but I can't think of a better place to be stuck.
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