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Old 03-28-2019, 11:59 PM   #1
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Hi,

I am thinking about buying a 1989 13' lil bigfoot.

It has a pretty significant crack (about a foot long) alongside the frame on one side.

Any ideas on how feasible it would be to patch it? I'd probably need to take it off the frame. If I do, what's the likelihood that it cracks again?

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Old 03-29-2019, 06:54 AM   #2
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I'm not sure how to interpret the OP's comment. Is the frame cracked, or is there a crack in the fiberglass near the frame ?
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:08 AM   #3
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I understood the latter.
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:34 AM   #4
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The Lil' Bigfoot is not built like the rest of the Bigfoot trailers. I believe it used a frame that actually started life as a boat trailer. Axle replacement, and frame work on these units seem to be much more complicated than other trailers. I also think that the Lil' Bigfoot is different from other Bigfoot trailers and uses a torsion axle. All the larger Bigfoot trailers use leaf spring suspension.If the frame is cracked, I would plan on replacing it and it would be a major project and expense.
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:49 AM   #5
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Sorry for the unclear question. The crack is in the fiberglass, but right beside the frame. I think the frame is in decent shape, but the fibreglass needs repair. See the following picture:

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Old 03-29-2019, 09:06 AM   #6
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Foot long crack on the fiberglass? Beware. First you need to figure out the cause then you need to do the repair. Will probably have to come off the frame to repair.

Best suited for someone with the time/tools/aptitude/ covered work space. Myself I would not touch it.
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:50 AM   #7
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Primary fiberglass repair and reinforcement is normally done from the inside, so that will likely mean some disassembly of the cabin. Since the outside portion of the repair is mostly cosmetic, Iím not sure it does have to come off. Drilling small holes in the ends of the crack can keep it from spreading.

I agree about looking for a cause. If itís not impact damage, it means something was moving that shouldnít- cracked frame, loose mounting bolts, aged out axle...

Am I the only one not seeing the photo? My response assumes itís a stress fracture going all the way through the shell. If itís just in the surface gelcoat layer, thatís more cosmetic, not structural, and much simpler.
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:52 AM   #8
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If it were me I'd take it to a boat repair shop and let them tell me what needs to be done. Then get an estimate from the boat shop to do the work. After that you can decide if you want to attempt the work or let the boat shop do the work.
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I think he would need to buy the trailer before he could take it somewhere for an estimate.
Pictures would help.
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:26 AM   #10
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This is Mrs. Ben in BC and this is a picture of the crack. Thanks all for your input and advice!
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:55 AM   #11
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Do you have, can you get, a picture of inside of the trailer at that same location?
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:59 AM   #12
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Is that a crack in the fiberglass? It looks like the gel coat has cracked and peeled away from the fiberglass. If it is just the gel coat that has peeled off, it is not a really serious problem. Can you examine the trailer from the inside. If so, look for signs of moisture damage. Fiberglass is pretty tough and gel coat is very hard and brittle.
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Old 03-29-2019, 11:11 AM   #13
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It looks like the rest of the frame has failed and the shell flexed and cracked because of that, if I understand what I am looking at.
It looks like the frame ends at the crack and then the structure carries the loads from there.
Anyone know how the trailer is made?
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Old 03-29-2019, 11:12 AM   #14
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The inside is underneath the flooring so we couldn't get a look at it. The flooring was not water damaged at all but also pretty new looking.
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Old 03-29-2019, 11:22 AM   #15
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My question is if the fiberglass trailer is a structural part of the design?
The frame ends at the crack is the back of the trailer is not near by there is a good bit of stress there for some reason.
If it were me I would steer clear of this trailer if I could not find out why it cracked (or if I were getting a pretty good deal on it).
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The inside is underneath the flooring so we couldn't get a look at it. The flooring was not water damaged at all but also pretty new looking.
New flooring could be lipstick on a pig (covering problems). Or it could be fine. The water damage, if it has any, will be beneath the flooring.

Nasty crack, and odd the frame ends suddenly like that. I am used to seeing frames that extend past the body of the trailer (to a rear bumper, or on front to the A frame). So if that is the way they made the frames on Lil BF, maybe the area behind the frame rail just cantilevered, and cracked.

Looked at similar era LBF, it does appear the frame stops short of the rear of the trailer. Curious design. Over the years, that could be putting stress on the shell once you reach the end of the frame.
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Old 03-29-2019, 01:40 PM   #17
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I'd be looking hard at that frame.
With the amount of rust it has showing on it you may have other worries.
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Old 03-29-2019, 02:36 PM   #18
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I agree with Steve. That frame doesn't look to be in too good of shape either. The fiberglass repair itself isn't hard, but you really need to determine what caused it to crack to begin with. Such cracks are not normal, and must have been caused by something like running it into a large pothole which slammed the whole trailer shell pretty good, or some other impact force which it sustained. With the condition of the rusty frame, I would also be very suspect about the integrity of the mounting fasteners which secure the fiberglass shell to the frame. They may also be compromised. In any event, to me anyway, I'd run, not walk, away from this one. There are much better trailers out there that will present you with a lot less headaches and expenses to fix. By the time you "rehab" something like this you'd be time and money ahead to pay a little more and get one that isn't a basket case. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 03-29-2019, 06:31 PM   #19
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I believe that the floor is the support for the whole shell and the frame does not go all the way to the rear of the trailer like it does in the Casitas and Scamps.
The floor is all of the support for the shell and my guess is that it has to support the weight of the water tank etc and the shell with the plywood.
My guess is that the plywood is rotten and you are looking not a fiberglass repair, but that and floor replacement.
There are threads about replacing floors in the site.
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:00 PM   #20
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The trailer may be a good deal for someone that is able to inspect & assess what would be needed.
If your looking for a trailer to get out camping this would not be the one.


A good indicator would be to ask the owner to take it to a shop for inspection. Shops in BC charge around 100.00 per hour for work.
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