|
|
06-07-2013, 09:21 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
|
DOT recalls hazardous cylinders manufactured by The Lite Cylinder Company
This is being discussed on the CasitaForum and I know there are members here that own these tanks.
This link will take you to the Government Security News site.
DOT recalls hazardous cylinders manufactured by The Lite Cylinder Company
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
|
|
|
06-07-2013, 10:03 PM
|
#2
|
Commercial Member
Name: Kevin
Trailer: 1995 Scamp 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 260
|
Wow, that's serious. Are these things prevalent on RV's? I know they're spendy to buy, gonna stink because this company will file for bankruptcy like last week. I've been up-close and personal with ruptured 20 and 100 pound LP tanks, they're no joke, on fire or not. LP is a cryogenic liquid, it can do as much damage cold as it does burning.
|
|
|
06-07-2013, 11:39 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
|
The consensus on other websites is that bankruptcy will follow quickly and that, in any case, reimbursement of owners by Lite Cylinder is not mentioned in their public statement on the USDOT recall. There is a promise of reimbursement for cost of returning empty tanks to LC.
I have a full 25pder which I will have to pay to have emptied. I believe I'll wait for a prepaid shipping label and then lend a hand to the effort to consolidate all this junk in Tennesee. As a second owner, I'm certain the wait will be long. The prescribed five-day window for return is very short also. Is that a small hint by the DOT that we'd better stampede to UPS before the naughty manufacturer bleeds out on return shipping.
Is it too much to expect that a commercial operator such as UHaul will be able, willing and permitted to transfer contents to an approved tank?
jack
|
|
|
06-07-2013, 11:46 PM
|
#4
|
Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinPete
Wow, that's serious. Are these things prevalent on RV's?
|
The picture looks like a see-through fiberglass tank.
So standard steel tanks are OK?
__________________
Frederick - The Scaleman
|
|
|
06-07-2013, 11:56 PM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
|
For those lucky enuf to be unfamiliar with these, they are indeed fiberglass. Only the Lite Cylinder products are included in the emergency directive.
jack
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 05:23 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul VT16
Posts: 982
|
Bummer, got two of them full. I'll burn mine off on the BBQ.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 05:57 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
|
Glad I decided against them. I'm no stranger to fiberglass tanks, but I just can't convince myself they make sense for rv use.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 09:13 AM
|
#8
|
Commercial Member
Name: Kevin
Trailer: 1995 Scamp 13
Pennsylvania
Posts: 260
|
Any place that does recerts on tanks should be able to empty them.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 09:31 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 93 Burro 17 ft
Posts: 6,024
|
Are there other mfrs of FG LP cylinders? Or was this the only one? I like the idea of a see-through tank that's lightweight, but price and the uncertainty of the new material's lifespan have made me hesitate so far.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 09:42 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
|
Yes, there is a manufacturer of a one-piece tank. Forgot name. May be others. Only LC tanks recalled.
jack
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 10:14 AM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 2,011
|
I have a couple of composite tanks manufactured by Ragasco. SO far as I've seen, they aren't on the recall list. Good thing, they weren't cheap! I don't use them on the trailer, but I usually take one for running my camp stove and grill.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 12:50 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
|
Onswipe
Statement purportedly from Lite Cylinder at above link indicates that the protocol for return of tanks to Lite Cylinder has been abandoned due to insolvency and closing of the company. Has anyone seen confirmation of this from the federales?
jack
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 01:12 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Name: Derek
Trailer: 1973 boler 13', Earlton On
Ontario
Posts: 396
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit
Onswipe
Statement purportedly from Lite Cylinder at above link indicates that the protocol for return of tanks to Lite Cylinder has been abandoned due to insolvency and closing of the company. Has anyone seen confirmation of this from the federales?
jack
|
The following link suggests that the Lite Cylinder has lost the legal right to manufacture cylendars. Not only are they facing a recall of previously manufactured cylendars, but they arent allowed to make new ones either. Although this doesn't necessarily mean bankrupcy, it does take away Lite Cylinder's income stream. Any money that remains at this point will probably be eaten up by the legal system.
http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles...ion_Letter.pdf
The above document suggests a rather high fail rate. It also implies that efforts were made to sweep the evidence of this fail rate under the carpet. The middle seam on these tanks appears to be vulnerable to failure. If you have one of these tanks and plan to quietly continue using it, you may want to reconsider.
|
|
|
06-08-2013, 01:28 PM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Trailer: Trails West Campster 1970
Posts: 3,366
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared J
Glad I decided against them.
|
Exactly what I was thinking. They were the hot thing when I was looking into tanks, in 2007, and luckily our local feed store offered a 20 gallon tank full for $20 right about that time so I bought that instead. (Still working on it- you don't use propane fast when all you run is the occasional stove burner.)
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 06:40 AM
|
#15
|
Senior Member
Name: deryk
Trailer: 2012 Parkliner 2010 V6 Nissan Frontier 4x4
New Jersey
Posts: 2,085
|
Wow what a bummer...glad Im poor and didnt spend the money on one yet. I was planning on switching over to 1 30lb fiber/composite tank...now I wanna see what they come out with as the findings. There is another manuf out there...wonder if the same thing will happen to them?
__________________
deryk
All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost.... J.R.R. Tolkien
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 08:13 AM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
Name: Derek
Trailer: 1973 boler 13', Earlton On
Ontario
Posts: 396
|
Deryk, it looks like the center seam was the weak-point in these tanks. If somebody has come up with a different process, the tank may be OK.
What is it that attracted people to these tanks in the first place?
Was it the lighter weight and rust?
Derek
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 08:17 AM
|
#17
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by glamourpets
...
What is it that attracted people to these tanks in the first place?
Was it the lighter weight and rust?
Derek
|
All that plus the ability to VIEW how much propane was left in the tank.
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 08:26 AM
|
#18
|
Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
|
Lower tare weight. Visual cue to amt. propane remaining. The latter advantage was oversold IMO. I couldn't see the level of contents except in bright sunlight or by rocking the tank to make the meniscus apparent.
jack
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 10:42 AM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
Name: Derek
Trailer: 1973 boler 13', Earlton On
Ontario
Posts: 396
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit
Lower tare weight. Visual cue to amt. propane remaining. The latter advantage was oversold IMO. I couldn't see the level of contents except in bright sunlight or by rocking the tank to make the meniscus apparent.
jack
|
Its interesting nobody has come up with a metal tank with a "window" in the side. I've seen stick-on gauges for metal tanks, but nothing more sophisticated than this.
|
|
|
06-09-2013, 01:08 PM
|
#20
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by glamourpets
Not only are they facing a recall of previously manufactured cylendars, but they arent allowed to make new ones either. Although this doesn't necessarily mean bankrupcy, it does take away Lite Cylinder's income stream. Any money that remains at this point will probably be eaten up by the legal system.
|
as some of the links suggests that the report includes a number of serious incidents involving people using the product you can be sure that pretty well every last cent & more of what the company has will go to legal fees..... sadly thats what happens when people are hurt or killed.
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Upcoming Events |
No events scheduled in the next 465 days.
|
|