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02-01-2013, 10:21 PM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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Dumb question about taillights
I'm doing the wire of my scamp 13' 77. I managed to work the 4 lights that go on the side. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out how the taillight is wired. The side light was easy. White on ground, green right, yellow left. On the taillight there are 3 wires ( black, red, and green). Where does each wire connect to???
I know I have to use the brown one, and again green right, yellow left... But there are 3 ( black, red, and green) On the taillight. I tried and one side works super bright and the other one is dim. I'm sorry for such a dumb question but I could not figure out by myself...
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02-02-2013, 07:18 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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No dumb questions are asked here Jose... just folks with problems needing solutions.
Does the Scamp wiring diagram in the Document Center help?
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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02-02-2013, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2007 19 ft Escape 5.0 / 2002 GMC (1973 Boler project)
Posts: 4,148
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Hi: Chita... Just to make things difficult when re-lamping my former Boler I drilled off the bulb sockets and mounted in LED tractor trailer stop/turn/tail lamps. They were so bright I could put the original lenses over top of them...Retro style. Trouble is my brother, with the lead Boler in this pic., wanted me to do his too!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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02-02-2013, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Chris
Trailer: U-Haul
Georgia
Posts: 241
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What you should have is a wire for the stop and tail. That will attach to the yellow or green to light the bright side of the bulb. The dim side of the bulb will go the the brown wire on a 4 flat. It is the running lights. The second bulb may be there to provide better light for the large assembly. The third wire should be the ground.
So a bright light wire. A dim light wire. And a ground.
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02-02-2013, 09:40 PM
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Member
Name: del
Trailer: 1980 13' Burro
Utah
Posts: 82
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02-02-2013, 09:42 PM
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Junior Member
Name: grant
Trailer: 13' burro, 13' casita, 20' nomad f/w
Texas
Posts: 21
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Chita, do you have a 4pin flat connector ( white=ground, brown= running/tail light, yellow=left stop/turn, green = right stop/turn )? if you have a 7 pin round connector,the wire colors are the same. your side lights (amber front ---red rear) are wired to the brown wire. The rear light sockets are probably grounded thru the light socket to the frame. the bright bulb side should only work (burn)when the brakes or turn signal are used, both rear lights will burn when brakes are applied, only turn signal selected will flash. the other side brake light will be bright. the second bulb on the left side was for the license plate, it looks like it has been moved. Was mounted under the left tail light?
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02-03-2013, 12:28 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
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Scamp uses the Bargman wiring color code. The normal brown, yellow, green code does not apply internally to the scamp wiring. White is ground, black is house 12 DC. You can go to the Scamp website, in the owners manual and you will find the wiring diagram and color code.
Eddie
See page 13, 14 & 15 Scamp Trailers - Owners Manuals
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02-03-2013, 12:48 AM
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Junior Member
Name: grant
Trailer: 13' burro, 13' casita, 20' nomad f/w
Texas
Posts: 21
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Sorry , go to #18 in the above owners manual and swap colors ,otherwise the info I indicated is correct;
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02-03-2013, 01:38 AM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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Thank you everyone. I just ordered new lights from eBay... Let's see how it turns out when I receive them...
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02-12-2013, 10:24 PM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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02-12-2013, 11:24 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp 16'
Utah
Posts: 258
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Chita: The side lights, like tail lights, should be on whenever the tow vehicle lights are on.
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02-12-2013, 11:30 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Lora
Trailer: 89 Bigfoot 17G & 73 Compact II
Northern Neck, VA
Posts: 352
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Those tail lights look good!
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02-13-2013, 06:47 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Chris
Trailer: U-Haul
Georgia
Posts: 241
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Clinton
Chita: The side lights, like tail lights, should be on whenever the tow vehicle lights are on.
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X 2. The lights on the side of your trailer (marker lights, or running lights) should be on with the headlights of your tow vehicle. Your lights look very good from the photos you put up. The only thing i see(or don't see) is a tag light. There is supposed to be a clear light shining on the license plate. Without it there is some law officer out there with "Fiberglass Envy" that will stop you, or even ticket you for not having a tag light. You can get a small round tag light and mount it in the bumper shining up on the plate to make it legal.
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02-13-2013, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Chuck
Trailer: tp
Washington
Posts: 649
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Black should be tail light, red should be turn, white ground.
Chuck
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02-13-2013, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chita
The way it was set up before, they were turn lights only, but I think it would be good if they were night lights, right? Confused!!...
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Your marker lights shouldn't ever flash, if that's what you mean by "turn lights". If they do, they're either wired wrong (not to headlight circuit) or if they're only "flashing" weakly, you could have another problem in the system....my limited experience is that poor ground connection is often the culprit with such anomalies.
Francesca
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02-13-2013, 01:33 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Jones
X 2. The only thing i see(or don't see) is a tag light. There is supposed to be a clear light shining on the license plate. Without it there is some law officer out there with "Fiberglass Envy" that will stop you, or even ticket you for not having a tag light.
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I simple fix to the problem is to use Bolts with LED lights in them to attach the licence plate to its holder. Just run the wires to them from the main taillight wiring behind the licence plate holder. You can find them at most motorcycle or ATV shops.
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02-14-2013, 07:17 PM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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New lights just arrived....
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02-14-2013, 08:06 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Cool for you Jose! Those will light up your Scamp. Where did you get them?
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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02-16-2013, 07:29 PM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Cool for you Jose! Those will light up your Scamp. Where did you get them?
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Thank you. I got them from eBay. $5 @ piece..
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02-17-2013, 12:27 AM
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Member
Name: Jose
Trailer: Scamp 13' 77 (:
Nevada
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
I simple fix to the problem is to use Bolts with LED lights in them to attach the licence plate to its holder. Just run the wires to them from the main taillight wiring behind the licence plate holder. You can find them at most motorcycle or ATV shops.
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Lights are all done (:. I also switched the taillights around, so the license place could be seen. Let me know what you guys think..
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