Georgia reno of 2001 Scamp

[Ed Harris]

On a Scamp the toilet is sitting directly on top of its balck tank inside the bathroom itself.
Then the black tank output goes down and into a dump valve so it can drain into a sewer either with the grey or not depending on how many dump valves there are there?

The grey from the shower goes into the pump and then onto the grey tank under the trailer.The grey from the kitchen also goes into the tank and the tank output then goes into the dump valve manifold again unless they are 2 separate lines.

I have seen it both ways.

In order for the grey to dump onto the ground something is not connected somewhere or the dump valve is open.

The pic you show only shows the pump input but I can not see where the output goes if it goes anywhere at all?


Also is the bathroom in the front of the Scamp or on the side??????

[volunteergal63]

Originally Posted by Ed Harris

On a Scamp the toilet is sitting directly on top of its balck tank inside the bathroom itself.
Then the black tank output goes down and into a dump valve so it can drain into a sewer either with the grey or not depending on how many dump valves there are there?

The grey from the shower goes into the pump and then onto the grey tank under the trailer.The grey from the kitchen also goes into the tank and the tank output then goes into the dump valve manifold again unless they are 2 separate lines.

I have seen it both ways.

In order for the grey to dump onto the ground something is not connected somewhere or the dump valve is open.

The pic you show only shows the pump input but I can not see where the output goes if it goes anywhere at all?


Also is the bathroom in the front of the Scamp or on the side??????

The bathroom is on the front. The grey water tank and drain is on the back on the driver side.

It seems there should be something connecting the shower drain (small white pipe in black fitting) to the white fitting that has the pipe to the grey tank in back coming out of it.

[Ed Harris]

It looks to me as though things are backwards?

The shower drain is what should be connected to the pump on one side and then another from the pumps other side to the grey tank.

From the pic the pipe connected to the pump looks to me like a standard shower drain fitting for this but are you claiming it is the other(black) drain that is the shower?

[Ed Harris]

Maybe something got whacked and the shower drain is simply leaking and not sealed to the pump line?

The shower pan should be one piece molded and the drain the only way for water to escape it but if the drain is loose on the pan it could just drain from around the drain.

If the pump is not connected to the grey tank and/or if the pump does not turn on when running water for the bathroom maybe you have more than one drain issue from the shower?

There should also be a switch somewhere to start the pump.

[Eddie Longest]

Susan
It looks like your shower drain is missing the trap bowl. Look at your sink drain it uses the same type of trap bowl. Most RV places carry the drain traps.
Eddie
http://shop.scamptrailers.com/p-375-sink-trap.aspx

[Carol H]

Susan, what Eddie has posted the link to is indeed what you are missing - the trap bowl goes right under the floor drain. Then a hose should run from the trap bowl to the pump and then out to your grey water tank.

BTW I replaced the acorn nuts in my bathroom with Stainless steel as well. 5 years later still no rust and the shower does get used in my trailer.

[Steve Hammel]

Originally Posted by Eddie Longest

Susan
It looks like your shower drain is missing the trap bowl. Look at your sink drain it uses the same type of trap bowl. Most RV places carry the drain traps.
Eddie
Sink Trap

I see it now, the white thing with the line going to the pump. I was caught up on what appears to be a white thing coming out of the black waste/black water pipe. I agree you are missing the bowl.

[volunteergal63]

Thanks for the help!!
Headed to hardware store today. Any chance they have the shower tray pipe or do I have to get it from Scamp?
I am very excited about doing this myself. Could not do it without you guys!
Thanks again!!
Susan H.

[Eddie Longest]

You will have to get it from a RV parts store. It is more than likely found in a kit form. Just pull of the hose and use what you need.
Eddie
RV Sink Water Drain System 37420

Some of the older traps have removable bowls. If you get lucky you may have and find a trap with a removable bowl. Then you can just replace the bowl. The newer ones are one piece.

[Donna D.]

The P trap (the bowl you guys are talking about) broke under my sink. I unscrewed it and took it to Camping World (3 miles from my house). The parts guy looked at me like I had two heads. I finally told him, it's used alot in tent trailers. Guess what Camping World doesn't (didn't carry). I was fortunate and had all the parts. JB Weld and it hasn't failed yet.

I'm only mentioning this because not all RV places will have everything you need... unless you nudge them with info. IF/when the one in my Scamp breaks, I'll buy from Chuck, at least he knows what it's for and has it!

Flexible Camper Drain, Camco 37420

[volunteergal63]

Originally Posted by volunteergal63

Thanks for the help!!
Headed to hardware store today. Any chance they have the shower tray pipe or do I have to get it from Scamp?
I am very excited about doing this myself. Could not do it without you guys!
Thanks again!!
Susan H.

PICTURES!!!!

Rotten floor under sink

[volunteergal63]

Originally Posted by volunteergal63

PICTURES!!!!

Rotten floor under sink

Rusty curtain holder, replace rivets??


Rusty door hinge bolts




Missing rivets








Missing part to hold Jacks in place



More shower drain pictures










Even more inside pictures

[Eddie Longest]

Susan
Now with the new pictures it look like you are missing your shower pump strainer not the drain trap.
Eddie
Grey Water Filter

[volunteergal63]

Thanks Eddie

[volunteergal63]

Thanks Eddie
Any thought on the other problems. When I hooked up the city water and filled the hot water heater tank and turned on the hot water, it smelled really bad. I am going to call our rv repair shop and let them check it out.

Susan H.

[volunteergal63]

I am still going to fix the little stuff myself.

[Eddie Longest]

You just need to flush out the hot water heater. Take the trailer outside and tilt the trailer toward the water heater (With a jack or put one wheel on a ramp). Then make sure there is no pressure on the water system. Open the water heater access door and you will see a plastic drain plug. It takes a 15/16 socket to remove it. Drain water heater then start flushing out the crud. Re install the plug when no more crud comes out.

[Glenn Baglo]

Be sure to use Teflon tape on the plug threads when you re-install the plug or you may never, ever, get it out again.

[Carol H]

Susan with the exception of your floor issue pretty well every thing else is pretty easy to fix and pretty standard maintenance issues.

The floor is going to be your biggest problem depend a lot of how rotten it is. If you pock it with a screw driver is it really spongy or is it just the top layer of chip board that is peeling up?


You can get the new curtain holder at pretty well any drape shop or hardware store or perhaps even Walmart. Just drill out the old rivets and replace.

You can buy replacement parts for the door at the Scamp online parts store for $5.

You can purchase rivets and a gun at most hardware stores. But Scamp does sell packages of all the sizes of rivets they use on the trailer along with all the different sized cap holders and caps you will ever need. Otherwise you can also buy the caps and cap holders from most major hardware stores. As far as what size rivets you will need do a google on this forum and you will find a thread that I seem to think is called Scamp Rivet Sizes or something like that.

What do you think you are missing on your jack to keep it in place? From the photo it looks to pretty standard. There is a round bar that can be used by putting it in the holes to jack it up a little more but you dont need that to keep them in place. Scamp also sells the bar online.

Eddie is right again about the hot water tank. It may be that some not so great water was left in it. Simple needs to be cleaned out. Sometimes sludge will build up in the bottom of the tank as well. You can purchase a water heater rinsing wand from Camping world that helps with that in the future. If giving all your tanks a good cleaning out with a little bit of bleach (google the forum for how to do that correctly) doesnt clear the problem up it may be that the you need to replace the anode rod in the hot water tank but more often than not the tank just needs a good cleaning.

[volunteergal63]

Just a quick update. Ordered parts from Scamp and Dometic. Smell is gone after cleaning tank. Thanks again, Eddie. Taking camper to rv repair shop tomorrow to get air conditioner and hot water heater serviced, convert 4-wire hock up back to 7-wire and get new tires.
I will work on new cabinet doors, window treatments and cushions while she is gone.

Will post more pictures as I go.
Thanks again for all of your advice,
Susan H.