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05-23-2020, 05:28 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Jini
Trailer: 1977 Scamp for daughter Meagan
Virginia
Posts: 9
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Greetings! We need help figuring out the year of our Scamp!
The previous owner lost the title and it wasn't required in Georgia, he said. On the bill of sale, he listed it as a 1977 model. Our Scamp has elephant skin and tilt-out windows, not jalouis. They are rounded, not square corners, but the center pane of the front and back windows are the only pieces that open. The side windows open as one piece. The door has a larger oval/oblong window. Would anyone know what year our Scamp is? The window style makes me think it might be newer than 1977. Here is a photo...
BTW, our elephant skin was badly mildewed. We discovered a great trick, almost NO work! With a sponge wipe Dawn dish soap over the affected area. Then spray chlorine bleach on the soap which is sticking to the wall. In about 5 minutes, your mildew disappears! Rinse everything with water until suds are gone.
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05-23-2020, 05:37 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Hi Jini. to FiberglassRV.
Your trailer is right in the ball park for 76-77 Scamps, those tilt out windows were only used for a couple of years.
IF you need some assistance in window repair, check out this thread by Jenny. It's 10 years old, so some of the part numbers may have changed, etc.
https://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/...ows-42049.html
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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05-23-2020, 05:39 PM
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#3
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Junior Member
Name: Jini
Trailer: 1977 Scamp for daughter Meagan
Virginia
Posts: 9
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Thanks Donna!
I've noticed you are a real Scamp Guru on this site! Nice of you to answer so fast! Happy Trails,
Jini and Meagan
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05-23-2020, 05:59 PM
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#4
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Senior Member
Name: Gordon
Trailer: 2015 Scamp (16 Std Layout 4) with '15 Toyota Sienna LE Tug
North Carolina
Posts: 5,155
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley Jini
I've noticed you are a real Scamp Guru on this site! ...
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I see someone has been paying attention.. (and even not posting until today).
Yes, there are a few members who knowledge is priceless. I wish they would all get together and write a book!
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05-23-2020, 06:55 PM
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#5
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Senior Member
Name: Kenneth
Trailer: Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 1,858
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Have you found the VIN?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley Jini
The previous owner lost the title and it wasn't required in Georgia, he said. On the bill of sale, he listed it as a 1977 model. Our Scamp has elephant skin and tilt-out windows, not jalouis. They are rounded, not square corners, but the center pane of the front and back windows are the only pieces that open. The side windows open as one piece. The door has a larger oval/oblong window. Would anyone know what year our Scamp is? The window style makes me think it might be newer than 1977. .
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This is from the Scamp web page.
Q. How do I identify the year of my trailer by serial number? A. Trailers built between 1971-1982 used a non-standard number. The serial number started with E and was followed by four or five numbers. Some of the earliest trailers may only have had three numbers. The number following the E was the year of manufacture. E7 would have been built in 1977.
Starting in 1982 Scamp used the appropriate 17 digit serial number. Years from 1982-1989 the 11th digit is the designated year number as follows. So the 11th digit of the serial number will match up to the year code as noted below.
1982 C
1983 D
1984 E
1985 F
1986 G
1987 H
1988 I (Scamp did use “I” which is a not valid number)
1989 J & K (Switch to K in mid year)
AND
Q. Where is the serial number? A. The serial number is located on the tongue of the trailer on the door side of the trailer. It is stamped into the top of the 3″ x 1 ½” tubing. Most serial numbers will have 17 digits starting with “1S7”. Some older serial numbers will have 5 digits and start with an “E”. There were a few trailers made in the 70’s where the serial number was stamped on the top of the tongue opposite the door.
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05-23-2020, 07:00 PM
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#6
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Junior Member
Name: Jini
Trailer: 1977 Scamp for daughter Meagan
Virginia
Posts: 9
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Looking for our VIN
I'm going to get some paint remover tomorrow. I think I know where to look. The frame has been repaired, so I'm hoping the VIN hasn't been buried... Thank you all SO MUCH for your help! What an AWESOME group you are!
Jini and Meagan
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05-23-2020, 09:00 PM
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#7
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Senior Member
Name: Kenneth
Trailer: Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 1,858
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Vin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley Jini
I'm going to get some paint remover tomorrow. I think I know where to look. The frame has been repaired, so I'm hoping the VIN hasn't been buried... Thank you all SO MUCH for your help! What an AWESOME group you are!
Jini and Meagan
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Running the plate will give you the vin also.
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05-24-2020, 08:06 AM
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#8
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Senior Member
Name: Lisa
Trailer: 1992 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 781
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Congrats on your new-to-you Scamp! I love those older ones.
Do you have any inside photos you can share?
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1992 Scamp 13' Standard, 2017 Casita 17' ID,
2008 Scamp 16' Deluxe Layout 4
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05-24-2020, 11:35 AM
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#9
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Senior Member
Name: Peg
Trailer: 2016 -13' Scamp
Massachusetts
Posts: 237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley Jini
BTW, our elephant skin was badly mildewed. We discovered a great trick, almost NO work! With a sponge wipe Dawn dish soap over the affected area. Then spray chlorine bleach on the soap which is sticking to the wall. In about 5 minutes, your mildew disappears! Rinse everything with water until suds are gone.
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I'm glad to hear that YOU didn't disappear along with the mildew. Never, ever mix chlorine bleach with any other cleaning product. It's hazardous to your health!
Nice little Scamp, BTW.
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05-24-2020, 11:50 AM
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#10
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Senior Member
Name: Eric
Trailer: Boler
TN
Posts: 190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harley Jini
The previous owner lost the title and it wasn't required in Georgia, he said. On the bill of sale, he listed it as a 1977 model.
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While some states don't require a title other states do. Some states don't even require a tag, but when you leave the state you can run into problems. Not sure about Virginia but I went through a similar issue with no title here in Tennessee. It took me four months and a half dozen certified letters to get my Boler (last registered in Georgia and sold without a title) tagged and titled. If you have contact with the PO in Georgia you need to press them to apply for a lost title. Even if you have to incentivise them with say a $100 it would be well worth the money. Other wise you will more than likely have to send certified letters and get inspections in the hope that the state will title your fantastic plastic. Check with you local county clerk to see what they may require to get it registered and tagged.
How ever it works out good luck.
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05-30-2020, 11:17 AM
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Member
Name: Herb
Trailer: Scamp 19' 5th Wheel
TX
Posts: 33
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Cute Scamp. I own a 2010 19' 5th wheel I just purchased. I was going to suggest contacting Scamp with the VIN number stamped on the tow bar but see others more knowledgable than myself seem to have given you the perfect answer. Happy camping and Boon Docking.
Yank
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05-30-2020, 11:41 AM
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#12
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Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 1977 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 36
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Scamp serial number
The serial number on my 1977 Scamp 13' is on the tongue on the opposite side from the door.
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05-30-2020, 01:22 PM
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#13
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Senior Member
Name: Harold
Trailer: 1975 Scamp, 13-foot
Redding, California
Posts: 390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC0GV
Running the plate will give you the vin also.
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Hopefully, but not always. When I bought my 1975 Scamp the dealer I bought it from messed up the paperwork and it came back as a 1995.
My serial number is on a plate riveted to the tongue about six-inches from the body on the side opposite the door, and it starts out E5, proving it's a 1975, but the second time the supposedly corrected paperwork came back from the DMV it said F5.
Only because I persisted, and finally took the trailer to the DMV to be inspected, did I get the correct serial number on my paperwork.
Just because it says so on the DMV records doesn't make it factual.
Oh, and congratulations on your new to you Scamp. They are treasures!
--Harold
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05-30-2020, 07:00 PM
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#14
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Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 1977 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 36
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Scamp S/N
Interesting that Harold's S/N is on a plate riveted to the frame. On my 1977, it is stamped directly into the frame. It was nearly impossible to see until I sanded several coats of paint off the top of the frame rail.
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05-30-2020, 07:28 PM
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#15
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Senior Member
Name: Harold
Trailer: 1975 Scamp, 13-foot
Redding, California
Posts: 390
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Here's the ID plate on my 1975 Scamp. Notice:
GVWR = 1250
GAWR = 850
MO/YR of Mfg = 5-75
Serial Starts with E5
I haven't sanded the frame to see if the serial number is also stamped into it.
--Harold
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05-30-2020, 08:46 PM
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Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 1977 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 36
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Plate
That’s cool, Harold! Nothing like that anywhere on my trailer (wish there was). I did verify with Scamp Trailers that mine is a valid number - perhaps yours also has a stamp on the frame. Alternatively, someone could have fabricobbled that on mine!
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05-30-2020, 09:48 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Name: Harold
Trailer: 1975 Scamp, 13-foot
Redding, California
Posts: 390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NOD
That’s cool, Harold! Nothing like that anywhere on my trailer (wish there was). I did verify with Scamp Trailers that mine is a valid number - perhaps yours also has a stamp on the frame. Alternatively, someone could have fabricobbled that on mine!
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I'll have to check and see if I can find a stamped number, but I doubt it exists on my trailer.
I have a feeling that stamped numbers replaced the riveted plate because stamping numbers is cheaper and met the current (at that time) minimum legal requirements. I used to have a 1963 (titled as a 1964) Volvo that had a four digit serial number on the title. The number really only identified the year made and sequence of manufacture. (It was the 32nd Volvo P1800 made in the time span between Apr 1963-Aug 1963)
17-digit serial (VIN) numbers were mandated in 1981. It would be interesting to see what Scamp used as ID plates or stampings for 1981 and later trailers. (Or, in fact, all years.)
I added my Scamp to the FGRV Registry, including a photo of the VIN plate.
--Harold
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05-30-2020, 10:16 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Name: Kenneth
Trailer: Scamp
Wisconsin
Posts: 1,858
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From the Scamp page
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Harold
17-digit serial (VIN) numbers were mandated in 1981. It would be interesting to see what Scamp used as ID plates or stampings for 1981 and later trailers. (Or, in fact, all years.)
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https://www.scamptrailers.com/ask-scamp/faq-s#
Trailers built between 1971-1982 used a non-standard number. The serial number started with E and was followed by four or five numbers. Some of the earliest trailers may only have had three numbers. The number following the E was the year of manufacture. E7 would have been built in 1977. Starting in 1982 Scamp used the appropriate 17 digit serial number. Years from 1982-1989 the 11th digit is the designated year
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05-30-2020, 10:55 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Name: Harold
Trailer: 1975 Scamp, 13-foot
Redding, California
Posts: 390
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC0GV
https://www.scamptrailers.com/ask-scamp/faq-s#
Trailers built between 1971-1982 used a non-standard number. The serial number started with E and was followed by four or five numbers. Some of the earliest trailers may only have had three numbers. The number following the E was the year of manufacture. E7 would have been built in 1977. Starting in 1982 Scamp used the appropriate 17 digit serial number. Years from 1982-1989 the 11th digit is the designated year
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I've seen that info on Scamp's website. It would be interesting to have a Scamp only registry with VIN info, that could be sorted by year model, registration year, and other information. I've seen such registries for Model A Fords and E-Type Jaguars.
Unfortunately the registry here at FGRV is not useful for such information. Even searching for just Scamp 13s is impossible. Because terms aren't standardized there are over 465 search variations, and that doesn't include "models", which include such terms as "13' Scamp", "13 Standard", "13 times the fun" and a bunch more which may or may not refer to Scamps.
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