Hehr Window Help Needed - Fiberglass RV


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Old 12-15-2019, 09:31 PM   #1
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Recently purchased my first Motorhome! It has a huge hole in the back where there should be a window! The previous owner said the frame was cracked and not worth saving, then he bought a huge piece of plexiglass and that was pretty much where that project ended. I saw a thread on here at one time about building a window frame but most people were in agreement that that would be a huge pain in the butt....however, I can't find this replacement window anywhere....and a custom window would cost about the same amount as I spent on the whole thing from what I've researched.

This is a 1989 Ford Lindy
Window Size Rough Opening: 72.75"W x 22.5"H
Original windows were Hehr

Any advice or guidance is greatly appreciated!
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Old 12-15-2019, 10:54 PM   #2
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I can tell that you did not take the time to realize that this forum has a membership comprised of owner's of molded fiberglass trailers and the very few makes of molded fiberglass motorhomes such as the Sunraders. Trailers such as Bolers, Casitas, Uhaul, Compact, Bigfoot, Scamps, etc are the most common models of molded fiberglass trailer makes that the conversations are focused around.

You have a completely different type of RV with a completely different type of construction. So this is not going to be a very good resource for you to obtain information specific to your own RV. But who knows if you hang around and read about what we own you might become a convert to owning molded fiberglass RVs.

Happy Holidays and I hope you can connect with some other owners with motorhomes of the same make you own who can better help you with your window issue. But unfortunately I don't know of any forums focused on that make of motorhome to recommend ti you so that you can connect with them. However there are still companies online that support Hehr window repair parts. Also there are sometimes used RV windows on Ebay as well as at the various RV specialist used parts from salvaged vehicles. There are a number of those companies across the USA.
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Old 12-16-2019, 07:15 AM   #3
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this window is huge...thats what she said

Windows are trouble in any RV type. There are so many styles and sizes, many no longer made. They require tempered glass for safety. Expensive to buy and ship.

Your best first step would be to take the exact dimensions of the opening, noting whether the corners are square or curved, to an RV salvage yard and see what you can come up with. Google ďRV salvage near _____Ē to find one. There are also online salvage operations, but with a large window, shipping might make it impractical. Keep an eye on your local Craigslist, too. Sounds like you may have already done this.

Another option might be to divide the large opening into a couple of smaller openings. Wouldnít be too hard to frame in a spacer in the center of the opening.

Thatís all generic advice. For suggestions specific to your RV type youíll get better help on a general RV forum like iRV2.com. Weíre all about molded fiberglass trailers here.

Some molded trailers do have plexiglass windows, but the way theyíre installed using a rubber gasket will not work in a conventional framed RV. Plexiglass is flexible and can blow in or out due to pressure differentials when moving at speeds if not well-secured. Yours is very large, so itís even more susceptible.

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Old 12-16-2019, 07:29 AM   #4
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Itís a window

Iíll definitely look elsewhere for advice i didnít expect so much hostility.

Iím pretty sure that a molded Fiberglass RV also has windows, and that those windows were made on earth, and arenít completely alien and unique to any other RV window....

Maybe Iím wrong. But a quick google search for molded fiberglass RV window brought up NOTHING. A search for one of the models you listed brought up windows that are exactly the same as what Iíve been looking at.

Peace.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:45 AM   #5
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Iíll definitely look elsewhere for advice i didnít expect so much hostility.

Iím pretty sure that a molded Fiberglass RV also has windows, and that those windows were made on earth, and arenít completely alien and unique to any other RV window....

Maybe Iím wrong. But a quick google search for molded fiberglass RV window brought up NOTHING. A search for one of the models you listed brought up windows that are exactly the same as what Iíve been looking at.

Peace.
This is nothing. Some of the trailer-related Facebook groups can get real sporty. But you did bring your Chevy into a Ford dealer...If you're ever interested in molded fiberglass trailers (eggs), you'll find this place to be most accommodating.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page to the "Other SocialKnowledge Communities" box, then click the "RV & Travel Trailer" link. The way these forums are set up, if you have an account created on one forum, you have an account for all. Same username and password. So you may get more help from the various motorhome forums, and I would think the truck conversion forum would be the most help since they are all DIY.
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Old 12-16-2019, 08:49 AM   #6
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This is nothing. Some of the trailer-related Facebook groups can get real sporty. But you did bring your Chevy into a Ford dealer...If you're ever interested in molded fiberglass trailers (eggs), you'll find this place to be most accommodating.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page to the "Other SocialKnowledge Communities" box, then click the "RV & Travel Trailer" link. The way these forums are set up, if you have an account created on one forum, you have an account for all. Same username and password. So you may get more help from the various motorhome forums, and I would think the truck conversion forum would be the most help since they are all DIY.
Thanks I appreciate that!
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:09 AM   #7
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Someone needs to grow some thicker skin. I sensed to no "hostility" in any reply.
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:15 AM   #8
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I agree w/GOB..... canít see how this is interpreted as hostile
This is exactly what is going on in the world everyone looking to argue.... letís all agree to be a little thicker skinned .. my god it is getting insane in my humble opinion
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:37 PM   #9
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On the other hand the guy was just looking for some advice. It isn’t hard to interpret “did not take the time to realize ” to be less than friendly. Hostile? Maybe not, but less neighborly than I’ve seen the same mistake handled in other posts. I also appreciate your response, Justus.
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I find it interesting how that some people want to jump on an attempt to be helpful. The OP has a problem. This forum mostly about molded fiberglass Rvx. The OP in NOT a molded fiberglass RV and KC appears to let the OP know that's where he landed and might get better help on some other forum. If was to land on a sicky site I would appreciate knowing that right off so that could find someplace like this.
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:12 PM   #11
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I sincerely hope the poster finds a solution and gets his window replaced somehow. I also wish that he would no longer make "that's what she said " jokes, just no longer appropriate. I wish him the best.
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I agree, no hostility except from OP.

I know the feeling of wanting an answer RIGHT NOW and it should be 100% perfect and good cost and great product! But sadly, alas, when you buy any rig missing an entire window of door, you are going to have to accommodate.

Auto window specialists "can" make windows that go into vehicles meant to move around. As for cost, you can do it the cheap way, which will take you a lot of time, effort, and wasted money, or you can use fiberglass and fillers to hide the hole, or you can call up some window specialists and pay somebody local to make you a new window.

Sorry it's gonna cost you...not all deals are going to be financially sweet.

Good, competent, reasonable people are out there locally who make windows.

You're dang lucky you still have a DOOR. I've seen a number of posts where a travel rig is missing a door--and the rig is not being made any more, so salvage is the only hope. Or some really clever homework. And boy, do people get clever and crafty and artistic with their projects!

Good luck to you. I do recommend not crying about hostility until you actually encounter some. Pull up your big girl panties and wipe away those tears. Not everyone is going to give you a perfect answer.

I've been chewed up and spat out on this forum at least twice; it was hard to take but take it or leave it. This isn't YouTube where you can just conduct a little flame war freely.

Our moderators will step in if we actually get too hostile. Nice to know.

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On the other hand the guy was just looking for some advice. It isnít hard to interpret ďdid not take the time to realize Ē to be less than friendly. Hostile? Maybe not, but less neighborly than Iíve seen the same mistake handled in other posts. I also appreciate your response, Justus.
Sorry, but for all you folks who saw no hostility again look at the very first response and imagine how you, if seeking help, would have felt if you had been told you ďdid not take the time to realize....Ē When one has a problem they often have tunnel vision as their biggest concern is addressing the problem, not verifying the authenticity of whom they are asking. If not hostile, I can understand how the OP could have viewed this as simply snobbish, snotty or snarky (or another descriptor that begins with an ďSĒ). I agree with Biasdr. There is nothing wrong with civility. More people should practice it. And yes, MY opinion.
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Most people understand the point of maintaining a diversity of online forums with specific boundaries. A few people find all boundaries offensive.

This situation comes up frequently. A person with another build type comes seeking help from this forum. Usually itís a simple misunderstanding of the difference between a molded trailer and a fiberglass-skinned conventional trailer. In this case, the RV was not molded, not fiberglass, and not a trailer.

Civility certainly. I wrestled all day yesterday with whether I could have been gentler or kinder in my reply. Hostility was certainly not my intention. But Iím not going to back away from the boundaries of this forum, which is for discussions relating to all-molded fiberglass trailers. If we provide help to all without even pointing out the boundaries, the distinctiveness of this forum become meaningless, and a unique molded fiberglass resource will be lost.
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Correct me if I am wrong but the reason the OP is asking here is because some of our campers use the same windows.

My Scamp doesn't use Hehr windows but I am pretty sure when I was looking for seals someone suggested an RV supply place that specialized in parts for older campers and they sold parts for Hehr windows. I think at least some of the FGRV's do use them.

Personally I'm a bit surprised, most folks if you meet them camping and start asking for suggestions on fixing something or solving a problem will try to offer a suggestion or commiserate with you on your problem.

Telling the poster of other groups they might try is helpful, Suggesting where they might find Hehr or replacement windows is useful, letting them know that there may not be a lot of direct knowledge of their camper since this forum is focused on FGRV's but good luck would be what I would expect from those who don't have a solution but wish them well.

Discussion seems to have drifted in a less helpful and less pleasant direction.

I changed the title of the thread to
"Hehr Window help needed" the current thread title is a bit of humor but the OP needs to hear from a small subset of this forum with knowledge of old Hehr window replacements or sources. Doesn't need to be chased off. Heck if he manages that restoration he may be worthy of bringing back some of our FGRV derelicts. :-)

Good luck in your search. Lot of salvage yards for RV's are located in and around Elkhart Indiana. When an RV is an insurance total it often ends up there and many manufacturers are located in the area.


Maybe even information on what campers people know use those Hehr windows would prove useful.
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He may wonder where the thread went with a new title.
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Most people understand the point of maintaining a diversity of online forums with specific boundaries. A few people find all boundaries offensive.

This situation comes up frequently. A person with another build type comes seeking help from this forum. Usually itís a simple misunderstanding of the difference between a molded trailer and a fiberglass-skinned conventional trailer. In this case, the RV was not molded, not fiberglass, and not a trailer.

Civility certainly. I wrestled all day yesterday with whether I could have been gentler or kinder in my reply. Hostility was certainly not my intention. But Iím not going to back away from the boundaries of this forum, which is for discussions relating to all-molded fiberglass trailers. If we provide help to all without even pointing out the boundaries, the distinctiveness of this forum become meaningless, and a unique molded fiberglass resource will be lost.
Jon,

I have no problem with maintaining boundaries. And I think you are in line with me if you wrestled with your response and that it could have been said in a gentler manner. I just know how it feels to be stressed over some problem, to ask for help, and then perceive that I have been told to get lost.
I think that the second part of your post was suggestive of where help could be obtained and that is commendable. And I didnít see ďthe sentenceĒ as hostile, just a bit strong to the point it could be seen as somewhat less than civil.

Best wishes to you (and all who read this) for a happy holiday season and a prosperous new year!
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If you just remove this "I can tell that you did not take the time to realize that" from the response, the tone changes completely.

Instead, lead the reply with "This forum has a membership comprised of owner's of molded fiberglass trailers"

Now all that being said, its the internet. Best to develop a thick skin as different people respond differently. Typed words can denote a certain response that is not always the intent. And in the end, the response was correct in suggesting seeking out a regular RV forum. All that being said, molded FG windows are often common ones used on other types of RVs, particularly the jalousie style.

Given that the RV is over 30 years old, I would be looking at RV salvage yards first (they are out there). You can also have a custom window built at higher cost.

Oh a picture of one of the other windows on the OP's RV would be helpful to identify the style.
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He may wonder where the thread went with a new title.
They have a PM letting them know but my guess is the title would pull him in because the subject is of interest to the OP.

A few years ago someone suggested a vintage camper supply for seals I needed, I'm pretty sure they had some Hehr windows and/or window parts listed. That was a few computers back and I don't find the link anyplace. Sigh, so much data, so easily organized, can be such a mess.

Mine are prop open windows not crank open so the Hehr window recollection is one of those things I think I saw but wasn't paying close attention to.
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They have a PM letting them know but my guess is the title would pull him in because the subject is of interest to the OP.

A few years ago someone suggested a vintage camper supply for seals I needed, I'm pretty sure they had some Hehr windows and/or window parts listed. That was a few computers back and I don't find the link anyplace. Sigh, so much data, so easily organized, can be such a mess.

Mine are prop open windows not crank open so the Hehr window recollection is one of those things I think I saw but wasn't paying close attention to.
You are soooooooo right. In spite of the vast amount of information on the web, it can be ever so difficult to find exactly what you are looking for.
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