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Old 03-15-2017, 03:53 PM   #21
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Running watts of a Honda 2000i is 1600. Surge watts is 2000.
Micro Air's easy start, thread linked below, reduces the starting current of a typical AC 50% or more making it possible for a Honda or other 2000 watt inverted start a 13,000 AC.
One person in a motor home can run his 13k btu AC on his BATTERY BANK FOR TWO HOURS USING AN INVERTER with his micro Air easy start.

As far as hard start capacitors like a Supco most newer AC's come with a hard start cap installed already taylored for that unit. A Supco cap on my dometic AC actually made starting it worse.

Nobody that has installed a Micro Air easy start has been disapointed, they're actually thrilled, with the results. Here's the thread. I suggest you read it and the generator shootout that's mentioned too.
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...tor-76833.html

Further the hotter the temperature the harder an AC is to start. 90 degrees seems to be the breaking point. With Micro Air's easy start makes it easy to start.
And the BTU rating does make a difference, it takes a larger compressor that draws more current for more BTU's.

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Old 03-15-2017, 04:22 PM   #22
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It takes a second to start on auto throttle with the one on my stick trailer, but it does run it without issues, It will also run my microwave (not at the same time) but running the microwave makes it rev to the moon!

One of those try it and find out, the internet answers will always vary
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Old 03-15-2017, 04:47 PM   #23
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One Honda 2000 won't run the 13,500 BTU air conditioner.
I can run our Mach 8 13,500btu with our eu2000i, even with a propane conversion kit. I am at sea level, though, and have the soft start kit from Micro Air.
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:47 PM   #24
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Scary....you should see her hair!!

I guess blew up was a strong word maybe I should have said burnt out. All I know is it cost hi, $600 to get it fixed at a Honda dealer.
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Any idea what was damaged and why it cost $600. That's 60% of the cost of a new one. Ouch!
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:54 PM   #25
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Any idea what was damaged and why it cost $600. That's 60% of the cost of a new one. Ouch!

That's about the cost of the inverter

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Old 03-15-2017, 06:56 PM   #26
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That's about the cost of the inverter

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That's true! But an inverter will not run the A/C for long and if you live and boondock in the southern states, the EU2000 is a nice to have item.
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Old 03-16-2017, 05:22 AM   #27
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I was referring to the inverter inside the Honda generator being about $600 installed.

Honda eu20001 generators generate high freequency AC that is changed to DC current that is then ran through an inverter to produce 120 volts AC. The inverter is the most expensive part in the generator.

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Old 03-16-2017, 06:30 AM   #28
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I was referring to the inverter inside the Honda generator being about $600 installed.
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Joe, gotcha!
I Read your post with the impression that you were referring to an onboard inverter in the trailer, eliminating the need for a generator to provide 120vac power (a less expensive though shorter use alternative).

But even so, I am wondering why the Honda in question would "lose" its inverter rather than going into overload mode given the circumstances described. Have you heard of many cases of inverter damage in the Honda 2000?
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Old 03-16-2017, 07:01 AM   #29
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You asked what was "blown up" when the hair dryer was plugged in that cost $600 to replace and that was my answer to your question

Besides most trailers don't have an "onboard INVERTER".
What they have is a converter.

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Old 03-16-2017, 08:13 AM   #30
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There Trailer is an older 5th wheel and your right it has a converter. I guess you got to know the guy to understand that if there was something freaky going to happen it would happen to him. And the response would be "Oh Well"
I explain to him that over the past 9 years I have known him, every time he says "Oh well" it costs him money.
I personally do not know much about generators so if you say it should have done this or that it all may be true, but my point was if say a generator is rated for 2000watt and your trying to draw say 4000 watts, it just wont work.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:20 AM   #31
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The Honda manual says frequent overloading will lead to failure.

Oh Well
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:15 AM   #32
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Joe, gotcha!
I Read your post with the impression that you were referring to an onboard inverter in the trailer, eliminating the need for a generator to provide 120vac power (a less expensive though shorter use alternative).

But even so, I am wondering why the Honda in question would "lose" its inverter rather than going into overload mode given the circumstances described. Have you heard of many cases of inverter damage in the Honda 2000?
I've cooked a couple of inverters on bigger Honda generators. Both were likely overloaded one too many times. Mostly using welders or coring machines. Sometimes both at once.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:34 AM   #33
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As my buddy said....."Oh Well" and had a new one the next time we went camping and his wife still blows her hair in the mornings....I've tried to tell him, but now I just say You got it..."Oh Well"
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:49 AM   #34
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I might want to blow up cheaper clones instead of Hondas myself
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You asked what was "blown up" when the hair dryer was plugged in that cost $600 to replace and that was my answer to your question

Besides most trailers don't have an "onboard INVERTER".
What they have is a converter.

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Joe,
Please do not respond to me as if I am stupid, I am not. I simply misread your response.
I am well aware of the difference between an inverter and a converter. I own an Escape. For your information, one of the options Escape offers is an inverter in addition to the converter which is standard in almost every camping trailer. Escape also offers a solar panel as well as dual 6-volt batteries. And they offer a whole bunch of other options that are not offered by Scamp or Casita. While I did not opt for an inverter in mine, I know of several Escape owners who did. Apparently you are unaware that some manufacturers offer technology that perhaps Casita does not.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:48 PM   #36
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In my response I said
Besides most trailers don't have an "onboard INVERTER".
What they have is a converter.


I didn't say NONE have inverters, just most.
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