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10-31-2019, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Mitzi
Trailer: LilSnoozy 12/01/16, Tug 2012 Dodge Citadel
Florida
Posts: 573
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How to Sell
I am cross posting this also in General Chat as well as Legal Matters for the increased readership. So...best way to avoid being taken to the cleaners when selling your molded fiberglass? There are so many scams out there- including counterfeit if you sell for cash...I have been thinking about the WW2 Nazi campaign against England and they had quite a stash of counterfeit cash that matched the Bank of England's cash - it would've caused the fall of England but they couldn't get it into England in the later war years. I had thought about getting information and practice in how to recognize genuine cash like the banks do (what the heck is a watermark anyway?) and if the counterfeit is undetectable- well, read above about the Bank of England and WW2.
I have all original equipment even tho we removed some for our convenience- so I could return all that with a discount for cash.
DH was astounded to find out (from me) that cashiers checks can be washed and amounts and recipients forged.
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10-31-2019, 08:25 AM
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,230
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I have removed the two repeated posts, as it will only create two conversations at the same time, on the same subject. It is also part of the Community Rules to not post duplicate threads.
Do not post the same discussion topic more than once or in several areas of the forum.
Carry on.
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10-31-2019, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Cashier's checks should only be accepted during banking hours when you can call to confirm them by serial number and amount.
I think a little common sense will prevent the remote possibility of being taken by counterfeiters, but you can always do your transaction at your bank where they can check it and deposit the cash.
A watermark is a usually a paper manufacturers identification mark which is visible when held up to the light or in reflected light on a dark background.
As used on currency here is a link which explains ...
https://fitsmallbusiness.com/how-to-...terfeit-money/
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10-31-2019, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bill
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
The Mountains of North Carolina
Posts: 4,143
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Lots of forged cashier checks out there. Google cashier check scam. Typically its some obscure bank that is not local. Your bank thinks it is legit, then several days later they tell you its not.
Common sense goes a long way, scammers are not too sophisticated YET.
We did electronic bank to bank fund transfer on our Escape purchase. I took cash on the Trillium.
When I bought my truck, I went with the seller to his bank, handed over cash, he handed over title. I even had the bank notarize his signature.
"If the cashier’s check was written by a bank, it has to go through a clearinghouse, which is usually operated by the Federal Reserve Board. Even though this system has been largely automated since 2004, it can still take more than two weeks, according to the Better Business Bureau. That means there’s often a gap between when the money goes to the bank customer and the moment it can actually be verified. Cashier’s check scammers take advantage of this uncertainty by asking their victims to somehow return them some money. When the bank finally finds out the check is fake and takes the money from the customer’s account, the con artist will have disappeared, and the victim will be in the red."
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10-31-2019, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: Bigfoot
California
Posts: 193
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I've seen other rv sales places (rvt.com) that recommend using an escrow agent like you would with a house purchase.
https://www.rvt.com/rvlinks/rvescrow.php
I would think this could help lessen the possibility of fraud.
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10-31-2019, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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I have bought and sold well over a hundred vehicles over time and the only time I have been the victim of felony theft was from a licensed car dealer.
In that case he was caught and the theft was quickly rectified with full restitution.
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10-31-2019, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: U-Haul 16 ft Vacationer
Posts: 1,549
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Our two trailer sales and one antique VW pickup were all sold through PayPal. Seemed to work fine for us since the buyers were from a long ways away.
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11-10-2019, 10:30 AM
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Member
Name: corvetteguy
Trailer: Casita
Virginia
Posts: 34
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Meet at the buyers bank. Get the cash or cashiers check from the person behind the counter. If the buyer doesn't have a bank convenient to you and they do not want to do an electronic/wire transfer to your bank have them open a new account at a bank near you. If they don't want to do this move on to the next buyer. Also my rule of thumb: If the buyer doesn't want to take the time or spend the money (to travel) to look at your product in person move on to the buyer that does.
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11-11-2019, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Fredrick
Trailer: Escape 21C
Tennessee
Posts: 322
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selling scams??
We sold our Casita last summer to a guy in E TN..we transferred the thing at a bank and received a cashier check drawn on that branch
I made 2 copies of a contract I had revised from a sale of a motorcycle last year. WE all 4 signed both copies, he got the Cassy + 1 contract copy, after a thoro exam of the trailer..and we got a copy of the contract and the cashier check, which we immediately deposited..easy peasy
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11-12-2019, 06:15 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Lisa
Trailer: Boler 1700
Michigan
Posts: 130
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When we bought our boler 17 in Winnipeg we paid cash but at the sellers bank right to the bank teller. Also signed all the papers at the bank.
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02-01-2020, 12:08 PM
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Member
Name: Jodi
Trailer: Casita Freedom Deluxe
Texas
Posts: 42
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When someone makes an offer well under what you’re asking as says for example 12k cash in hand? Is that regular jargon? Naive
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02-01-2020, 12:45 PM
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: 1979 Boler 1700
Michigan
Posts: 2,049
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jodimckenna56
When someone makes an offer well under what you’re asking as says for example 12k cash in hand? Is that regular jargon? Naive
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Yes "cash in hand" or simply "cash" is regular jargon, and the majority of sellers demand it.
And sure the buyer can make an offer well under the asking price, but again, most FG trailer sellers demand cash, and if their trailer is priced right, they'll get the asking price or close to it.
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02-01-2020, 01:05 PM
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Member
Name: Jodi
Trailer: Casita Freedom Deluxe
Texas
Posts: 42
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Since I have your ear and if you wouldn’t mind, is this reasonable. I’ve listed my 17’ 2013 Casita in good to excellent condition at $16,000 and the offer was 12k cash...is that a good offer? I’m not in a big hurry but...donno.
No one to bounce these things off of.
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02-01-2020, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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Who knows? I listed a Subaru wagon for $1,800 and got no interest. Listed it for $2,600 and sold it in a couple days for $2,400.
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02-01-2020, 02:28 PM
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Member
Name: Jodi
Trailer: Casita Freedom Deluxe
Texas
Posts: 42
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Good point. It’s psychological in that holding out creates anxiety, it’s ethical and moral in that are you being reasonable and fair, it’s philisophical in that will I take top dollar from a shister or sell to the right person for a bit less. Never was much of a seller. Thnx
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02-01-2020, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bill
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
The Mountains of North Carolina
Posts: 4,143
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jodimckenna56
Since I have your ear and if you wouldn’t mind, is this reasonable. I’ve listed my 17’ 2013 Casita in good to excellent condition at $16,000 and the offer was 12k cash...is that a good offer? I’m not in a big hurry but...donno.
No one to bounce these things off of.
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I think your asking price is on the high side and the offer is too low. If the cash offer gets to $14k I’d take it.
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02-01-2020, 06:23 PM
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Member
Name: Jodi
Trailer: Casita Freedom Deluxe
Texas
Posts: 42
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Thank you. I’m going to do just that. Staging begins and up the marketing, ie Craigslist etc. Haven’t gotten one reply from these classifieds. Has to sell or I’ll try and consign with an RV lot back in Texas. I’ve got 2 months so it should go....I’m rambling to my imaginary friend haha.
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02-01-2020, 07:05 PM
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member
Name: J
Isle of Wight
Posts: 536
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jodimckenna56
Haven’t gotten one reply from these classifieds.....
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Is yours the hoarder trailer with the sideways pictures?
If so, that could explain it.
Sorry to be brutal, but if I was looking I would skip yours.
Empty it out, take lots of photos, and the offers will start coming....
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02-01-2020, 07:20 PM
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Member
Name: Jodi
Trailer: Casita Freedom Deluxe
Texas
Posts: 42
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Omg...this is great insight. I’m thinking how cute it can be as a lil home but no...who knew...now I will sooo continue to empty and ‘stage’. Problem is I’m still living in it... but live out of my SUV and just sleep in it. Or should I take out the mattress and set up the big table? Probably, huh? Thank you for being brutal. It didn’t hurt too bad.
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02-01-2020, 07:36 PM
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member
Name: J
Isle of Wight
Posts: 536
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jodimckenna56
Omg...this is great insight. I’m thinking how cute it can be as a lil home but no...who knew...now I will sooo continue to empty and ‘stage’. Problem is I’m still living in it... but live out of my SUV and just sleep in it. Or should I take out the mattress and set up the big table? Probably, huh? Thank you for being brutal. It didn’t hurt too bad.
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This is just me. This is what I would do.
Wait for a sunny day.
Empty it all out - remove mattress - set up diner.
Take lots of pictures, with the blinds up/lights on to make it look big.
Edit all the photos to remove the superfluous stuff.
Clean bathrooms sell trailers.
When you have some good/clean photos, feel free to add a few "cute" ones to show how it could be used. No pictures of the owner though.
Good luck!
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