Paul and Heather,
The rub rail can be used to hide wiring going from front to back.The track on my PP is not in great shape and will probably need to be replaced. Boat trim is probably what was used as they were manufactured by Winner boat.
Paul w, i am interested in knowing about how i can cover the wires in the camper with the run rail. If you look at the pic above with both beds in it, you can see the wires in the right corner.
Let me jump in to help here ... the rub rail material which I attached a link to and which Paul W mentioned is pervasive in the boat (and trailer) industry is used only on the exterior of the trailer. They not only use it to cover up ugly rivets and keep water from pooling on the rails, but they also snake critical wiring components that power the trailer lights all the way from the front to the back of the trailer while hiding the dirty secret that the wires are external. As for your internal wires, you might want to check some options for wire hiders/ channels ... they won't be invisible, but they are usually a white plastic channel/square tube that you route all loose wires through to keep it safer and less unsightly.
The product Paul C was referring to is called wire mold and is readily available in a number of different styles at electrical supply outlets.
It is indeed made to hide wire runs that can't be hidden by other means.
You can legally use this in your home as it complies with code. Using it in your PP is both safe and easy. Plastic paintable wiremold would just about disappear in that corner.
Wiremold is available at stores like Home depot. If you google wiremold a home depot link will be there among others. This stuff is versatile and can be used to add receptacles with " pancake " boxes as well as tv and speaker cables all kept out of sight.
Thank you to both PAULS!
Had a great weekend.....running lawnmower races haha!! We didnt win..... dropped the belt in the finale....and we were in first place at that point!! suxs!!! lol
PP did great though. no issues at all everything worked as expected. Two changes we will make, two small individual fans hanging from the storage racks, to get the big fan we had off the floor....I like mine on high, erns not so much!
And we really need an awning. we have the metal channel for one.......any ideas where to find one? And we bought one of those screen door thingys that hun over the door.....didnt work so great......do the make screen doors small enough for our PP?
Seems to me that insulation typically works one of two ways. It reflects heat or traps air without providing a conductive path for heat. Think those foil like survival blankets (reflective) or a down comforter (trapped air).
More inches of trapped air = greater insulataion R value. I would think a layer of insulating paint can only provide as much trapped air as the paint layer is thick. If the paint layer is as thick as say ensolite or reflectix it could possibly provide similiar insulation value, 1/4 as thick then only 1/4 the trapped air possible so only 1/4 the insulation.
Based on my own experience winter camping I can say that 3 inches of straw covered with a canvas tarp has kept me as warm in a light sleeping bag as my very thick sub zero rated sleeping bag. Hey I figured the survival manuals all said to use dry grass or leaves to keep warm so I would test it while I had the sub zero bag handy.
It should not really require much insulation in these small campers, just enough to prevent temp difference between inside and outside from creating condensation on the walls.
The only thing that they say these paints can do is reduce heat gain in direct sunlight if applied to the Exterior surface. Or reflect radiant heat back into a room. Does not sound like they would do much applied to a FG camper interior wall.
I also have a bit of a beef on reflectix type insulation. Well, not on the value of the stuff itself, as I use it under my metal roofing on my house, but in how it's generally used by people hoping to get some insulating effectiveness out of it.
I actually called the product makers once with a question about it as I was hoping to use it for the ceiling of my camper. They told me that it wasn't a good product for my application and that I wouldn't get much value out of it by gluing it to the ceiling. They said in order to be very effective that I must have an airspace between the material and the ceiling. They said that the only way I could get the full effect is to somehow devise a way that the material does not actually touch the ceiling. The only way I can think of that it would be possible is to glue little 1"x1" strips on the ceiling and attach the stuff to that and then somehow install a covering over the top of that. Seems like a big-time hassle to me. They make it all pretty clear from their webpage:
Now isn't there one manufacturer using this as insulation now? Are they leaving the necessary airspace to justify the effectiveness or making false claims? I really don't know which one is using it or what they are claiming. I'm just putting it out there... I'm just saying....
Heather any feedback on the insulating paint since you been acampin? I think I'm gonna try it anyway. I know it can't be like a "real" insulation install but if one coat cuts the temp 10-15 degrees, two coats should cut it 20-30 degrees!
Hey guys and gals!! Did some cold weather camping this weekend. Used a small a 1500 watt electric heater. Outside temp was low to mid 40's! Ran heater 10 mins, yes 10, I purposely timed it. Lol inside temp was low 60's increased to 85!! I was melting and turned her off!!! Was about an hour before it dropped to just below 70! No condensation on walls at all. Windows and dome of course did. I'm new at this but I think it did great. I will be applying another coat next spring. If one is good, two should be better!! Happy camper here!!!
I'm no scientist, so I won't argue what something could, should do or how it works. What I can say is that I needed an insulator, did some research, took the plunge and bought what I felt was the best choice for what i needed. For me personally, the results i have experienced, speak for themselves. Again, Happy Camper here!
Hello to the House!! Wanted to update on the insulating paint. My daughter and her boyfriend made the PP home for 10 days over the holidays! Again we used a 1500 watt electric heater, temps were in the high 20's/30's most of the time they were here. When I turned the heater on before they got here it took about 20 mins to warm her up, with condensation collecting on the windows, dome, and door. As it maintained the heat the condesation went away. They were perfectly warm for 10 days!! We did have a pretty heavy rainstorm and daughter was not impressed with the accoustics of the rain on the fiberglass roof, lol! I myself love it!! lol
Anyways just wanted to give an update to my insulation paint prototype! ) We are still happy with it! Although we are thinking we might need something bigger!!