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02-09-2016, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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More Trillium Water Damage (window)
Is this normal? or at least not abnormal?
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02-10-2016, 12:33 AM
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Commercial Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: Boler13/trillium4500/buro13
Ontario
Posts: 1,138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhinge
Is this normal? or at least not abnormal?
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Yes it has happened on many trilliums including mine. Remove the screws from the window, carefully peel back the Ensolite , remove all the rotted wood and replace the wood with composit 1 x3 flat stock bevel the edge to duplicate the wood you removed hopefully you will have a big enough price to match , reinstall the screws using stainless and glue back the Ensolite . The new composit frame should now out last the trailer.
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02-10-2016, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Trillium 4500 - 1976, 1978, 1979, 1300 - 1977, and a 1973
Alberta
Posts: 6,926
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More normal then you might think.
A composite frame makes sense, but I used 3/4" regular plywood, that I painted. I also did not glue the Ensloite back on.
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02-10-2016, 11:53 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 700
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David,
Did you put some sort of framing around your windows on the inside to hold the ensolite in place? On my trailer the ensolite has tears in some of the corners, probably made the previous owner replacing the old wood frames. Then they covered the tears with 1.5 inch wide MDF moldings, brad nailed to the wood frames. Since my windows were not water tight, the MDF sucked water and the nails rusted... I removed all of this, but I'm left with those tears to cover and a bunch of tiny holes. Right now the plan is to use 1.5" aluminium strips to frame the windows on the inside, held with SS screws. I don't want to glue the Ensolite back either. Any ideas welcome!
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02-10-2016, 01:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Trillium 4500 - 1976, 1978, 1979, 1300 - 1977, and a 1973
Alberta
Posts: 6,926
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No, I just shoved the Ensolite between the window and the wood frame that the screws go in. I think a nice wood frame would work though.
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02-10-2016, 02:07 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
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I'n not really into woodworking, and I fear any moisture or condensation coming from the windows would affect a wood frame. That's why I have aluminum in mind. Also any wood would preferably have to match the "faux wood" of the cabinets. Not sure if I can achieve this.
Thanks!
Carl
(and sorry Matthews, I didn't mean to hijack your thread! I did encouter lots of rotten wood on my window frames as well. Typical of old Trilliums I would say.)
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02-10-2016, 07:04 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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oh no, not worried about a hijack. Just happy to have more info up on the web... anyway the secret point of this thread was to ask about mold behind the ensolite under the windows.
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02-10-2016, 07:06 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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I hated the idea of not knowing what other problems all this water caused and as I cleaned out the space between the ensolite and the walls I ended up really wanting to pull the ensolite...
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02-10-2016, 07:09 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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quite a bit of the nastiest stuff cleaned up ok with bleach, other parts I sanded down because they needed patching anyway
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02-10-2016, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 700
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Example of yucky mold I found on my window frames:
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02-10-2016, 07:16 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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I did go a bit crazy over here, I wet sanded the whole wall and sealed the crack between the body and bench before I returned to my senses. also you can see the window frames I am experimenting with... they are lap jointed marine plywood
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02-10-2016, 07:17 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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oh yea, thats gross
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02-10-2016, 07:19 PM
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#13
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Senior Member
Name: Matthew
Trailer: Trillium
Texas
Posts: 129
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btw I think what caused my lapse of sanity was finding seeds and other leavings of some sort of living creature behind the ensolite... living in the belly band space?
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02-10-2016, 07:59 PM
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#14
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhinge
...living creature behind the ensolite... living in the belly band space?
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Geez I hope my wife never reads this!!
She'll have me strip the trailer completely!!
My ensolite is still glued hard to the shell just about everywhere, I can't imagine anything living behind it. The belly band space: mine had this piece of open-cell foam just under the windows as a filler for that space. It sucked water coming from the window like a sponge for years, and was pretty disgusting when I discovered it. If there was any critters to be found, I think this would have been the perfect spot, but other than mold there was nothing alive there, nor anywhere else in the trailer. The -35deg winters we have here probably helps keeping the number of stowaways to a minimum!
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