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Old 11-19-2016, 02:28 PM   #41
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Does Canada still use the Imperial gallon for gasoline? Dunno what is used for propane, maybe that's why the weight method..........
I think the weight thing is done to increase profits. From the ones I've seen they tare out tank weight as posted on the tank then fill the tank to it's 20 lb limit. Then charge you for 20lbs, which could be any amount of propane from 1 lb to 20 lbs.
Metered you pay for what you get.
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We do not use Imperial measures in Canada. Canada is metric ( unless you ask somebody how tall they are ).
I can assure you that when I have my propane tank filled it weighs twenty pounds more than when empty. At the till, I get a receipt for propane in litres ( converted from pounds ). The tare weight of a 20 lb. tank is about 17.7 lbs so the full tank weighs 37.7 lbs. ( as I posted previously ).
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Never thought my post would raise such a response. Most places in Edmonton, charge a flat rate for tank filling depending on the size of the tank, not how much they actually use to fill the tank. The reason I mentioned the Costco was I was very pleasantly surprised that the Costco only charged for what they used to fill the tanks rather than a flat rate.

Yes in Canada most liquids are measured by liters. Used to be imperial gallons, both mess up our friends to the south, sorry! We started down the road to metric land but sort of stopped half way. Building supplies are in both ,where you buy 4x8 sheets of say 18mm plywood. I just had a new garage built that was 26x30 but all the permits showed the metric measurements. My son is kind of lost as he was educated in metric but now lives in California.
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I just had to open the fridge and look. A pound of butter weighs 454 grams.
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Glenn,

Your propane tank only weighs 20 lbs more if it was empty when you brought it in. How would the amount be measured if you filled it from half? Also, the tare weight of empty tanks could be different.

Liquid measure is always an accurate way to measure the actual amount used in the filling process. Also, when new tanks are purged, that lost amount would not be charged to a the tank owner if using the weight method.

Since propane is a liquid as it's transferred, the flow meter is a very easy method of reading the actual amount used with no conversion needed. The price here in the States is listed at filling stations as a price per liquid gallon.
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I didn't pay for an argument.
I just described how propane tanks are filled where I live. Price here is listed per liter.
The tank has the tare weight imprinted on it. The tank is weighed. If a twenty pound tank weighs ten pounds more than the tare weight, it is half full. Not that difficult.
If the tare is 17.7 and the tank weighs 19.7, I pay for 18 and the operator fills it until is weighs 37.7.
At home, I use a luggage scale to weigh a tank, subtract the tare and I know how much propane is in the tank.
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Does Canada still use the Imperial gallon for gasoline? Dunno what is used for propane, maybe that's why the weight method..........
Canada uses liters for gasoline. Looks great on the signs when it says $1.39. But then you figure it out and you're paying about $4.44 a gallon. We had our motorhome propane tank filled and they used liters also. Can't remove tank from motorhome. One place the propane fillup pump looked like a gas pump and was on an island like a gas pump but the attendant had to fill it. We also have a Casita and when we buy propane in the US for it we always pay by the gallon. The pump shows how many gallons and they don't do any conversion that way.
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Got to wonder where one finds a 4.7 gallon propane tank.
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Propane

Everybody is right. In my little town ( where God keeps his eyes on us all) you can buy propane by the pound or by the gallon. You can see filler people opening the bleeder Or maybe not. They may read the Tare weight on the cylinder or maybe not. They might use a scale or a meter. They might weigh the cylinder when full or just say " There you go". Put the cap on, pay the man, go camping. LIFE is too short and it's only money, you can make more.
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I didn't pay for an argument.
I just described how propane tanks are filled where I live. Price here is listed per liter.
The tank has the tare weight imprinted on it. The tank is weighed. If a twenty pound tank weighs ten pounds more than the tare weight, it is half full. Not that difficult.
If the tare is 17.7 and the tank weighs 19.7, I pay for 18 and the operator fills it until is weighs 37.7.
At home, I use a luggage scale to weigh a tank, subtract the tare and I know how much propane is in the tank.
The propane dealer in my area does the same thing . 5 ,11 ,20 , 30 & 100 lb tanks are filled by weight . There is a sign at the front counter stating they do not sell propane by the gallon in the above listed tank sizes . If you have a large residential or farm tank with home delivery it is sold by the gallon. The price per unit is higher when you buy in small quantities so a 5 lb tank cost more per unit to fill than a 100 lb tank
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Costco by far is the best place for propane. The tanks they sell have gauges already on them so you can know how much is left. The price of the tanks is the best I have seen too. Also, the cheapest to fill them. I don't think I have paid more than $8 to fill completely empty tanks. I just wish they sold the 30lb with gauges and not just the 20lb. Don't fall for the exchange a tank "deal" unless you are desperate. Way more expensive.
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